Group: aus.aviation · Group Profile
Author: PitsPits Date: Aug 29, 2008 19:31
On Aug 30, 6:38Â am, Rob mine.com.au> wrote:
> Ned wrote:
>> Â From the ATSB prelim report -
>
>> Table 2: Details of the passenger oxygen cylinders fitted to VH-OJK at the
>> time of the occurrence
>> Location Serial No. Manufactured date Fitted to aircraft date
>> Right side #1 240341 Feb 92 Â Â Â Â 16 Jun 07
>> Right side #2 ST30395 Oct 01 Â Â Â Â 14 Jun 08
>> Right side #3 ST20539 Apr 01 Â Â Â Â 19 Jan 07
>> Right side #4 535657 Feb 96 Â Â Â Â 4 Jun 08
>> Right side #5 666845 Mar 99 Â Â Â Â 01 Mar 06
>> Right side #6 240293 Dec 91 Â Â Â Â 07 Jan 08
>> Right side #7 239949 Nov 91 Â Â Â Â 07 Jan 08
>> R Fwd O/H 883198 May 89 07 Â Â Â Â Jan 08
>> L Fwd O/H 686764 May 98 01 Â Â Â Â Sep 06
>> R Mid O/H 805949 Sep 04 17 Â Â Â Â Nov 07
>> L Mid O/H 686716 Jun 99 28 Â Â Â Â Sep 05
>> R Aft O/H 679454 Apr 99 07 Â Â Â Â Jan 08
>> L Aft O/H 71505 Jan 91 22 Â Â Â Â Jul 07
>
>> I find it somewhat curious that with this level of detail, that neither
>> of the
>> words "inspected" or "tested", appear anywhere in the report.
>
>> Surely an organization with QANTAS much vaunted "safety culture" would
>> have a
>> record of when and where these bottles, some of them near 18 years old -
>> and
>> some older - were tested in accordance with CAR - wouldn't they?
>
>> And if so why not include it in the report.
>
>> Surely these dates are way more relevant than the date the bottle was
>> fitted to
>> the aircraft??
>
>> After all, I can't get my LP BBQ bottle refilled without evidence of
>> inspection.
>
>> Ned
>
> Did you also note that the cylinders are filled to a pressure of 1850psi
> and minimum 2.87 mm (0.113 inch) wall thickness.
>
> And you guessed that your LPG bottle does not have that pressure either.
>
> Gas cylinders (CIG) have something like 2500psi are a much thicker wall
> and tested on a regular basis.
>
> I can think of a few reasons metallurgically why they can fail. Pitty
> they don't have the bottle. They still have to find a reason as the why
> it failed. Is there any other instances of this type of failure.
>
> r
Rob I think it is the first of its kind in the world. You may find
ATSB are scouring the world for bottles manufacture in the same batch
to run tests on
as the offending one took a spectacular RDO and went for a swim
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