On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:41:54 +1100, "SR20GOER"
aopa.com.au> wrote:
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>"Coop"
chariotnose.netwheel.au> wrote in message
>news:if8it39g706op13spljal2nu3iitfjenhd@4ax.com...>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:01:12 +1100, "SR20GOER"
>>
aopa.com.au> wrote:
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>> >>>
>>>Thank the almighty it's AUS aviation, as we are certainly pursuing the aus
>>>bit :)
>>>Brian
>>
>> It's not about the money, Brian. If it was, then the funds you have
>> pointed to would have dragged the intended recipients out of poverty
>> years ago.
>>
>> Its about attitudes. "Get a job" I hear people say. But they forget
>> about being the butt of racist jokes all day and eventually giving it
>> away because the atmosphere is too toxic. That's the sort of thing
>> that grinds a community down. Money doesn't fix it, and may even make
>> things worse, as you have so ably demonstrated.
>>
>> A delightful old aunty that I spoke to once told a story about going
>> along to a do held by the Australian Governor General to get an award.
>> After the tea and cucumber sandwiches (I assume- I can't remember all
>> of the details) she left with a friend and being as it was a hot day,
>> they dropped into a pub for a drink before continuing home. And were
>> promptly tossed out because their skin was the wrong colour. It was
>> good enough for them to attend the Governor General's residence, but
>> not the local rubbiddy!!
>>
>> I'm hopeful that things are changing, but attitudes have to change too
>> and that's where the ugly jokes have their impact. Remember the
>> problems encountered by our indigenous AFL footballers as they began
>> to make inroads into the local teams? And you saw it again just the
>> other day in Alice Springs.
>>
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2186753.htm
>> That sort of discrimination cuts deep because it is so patently
>> unfair. And money won't fix it.
>>
>> Coop
>
>Coop
>I agree it's about attitudes.
>We have employed the indigenous in my past work life - as I said, some good
>some bad.
>It's also about THEIR attitude and it has the buffer benefit of our $ backup
>if its a bad attitude.
True, but if it's coming your way more often from all directions
(remember, they are a small minority) then such attitudes are readily
generated. Don't worry, I've seen some pretty big chips on some fairly
small shoulders...
>Ever tried in the 80's walking into the black bar at the Todd pub. Reverse
>discrim exists!
Of course it does! They are a majority there and they take pleasure in
giving some of it back. (Doesn't make it right, tho').
>Also, discrim becomes a lever to drop in as an extra bargaining point.
Hell, if you are copping shit all the time, and you get a chance to
turn it into an advantage, wouldn't you?
>Dad was Treasurer of NMFC Kangaroos (AFL) for 20 years. I have seen some of
>the AFL issues and let me tell you it was not one-way.
>I like the examples Phil just gave - they typify the people who meet that
>quote I put up earlier.
>More of that, less "victim" mindset needed.
Hear hear!!
>cheers
>Brian - off to the Bonanza PPP
>
Hope the PPP was fun- and not screwed up by the current AD...
Regards
Coop
