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Author: NedNed Date: Oct 31, 2007 21:56
Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007
Flying in a jetliner is extraordinarily safe: There has been
only one fatal crash in the United States in the past five
years, an astounding record considering that more than
30,000 flights take off every day. How did flying get so
reliable? In part, because of accidents that triggered
crucial safety improvements. Here are eight crashes and two
emergency landings whose influence is felt -- for the good
-- each time you step on a plane.
1956 | GRAND CANYON | TWA FLIGHT 2 & UNITED FLIGHT 718
Upgrade: Improvements of air traffic control system;
creation of FAA
The TWA Super Constellation and the United DC-7 had taken
off from Los Angeles...
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Author: KwyjiboKwyjibo Date: Oct 31, 2007 22:28
"Ned" aioe.org> wrote in message news:fgbma5$o3v$2@aioe.org...> Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
> Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007
Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the
drastic changes that resulted.
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Kwyj.
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Author: Sylvia ElseSylvia Else Date: Oct 31, 2007 23:31
Kwyjibo wrote:
> "Ned" aioe.org> wrote in message news:fgbma5$o3v$2@aioe.org...>> Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
>> Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007
>
>
> Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
> I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the
> drastic changes that resulted.
>
No, because the changes haven't resulted in any increase in safety.
Sylvia.
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Author: Nick O'TymeNick O'Tyme Date: Oct 31, 2007 23:47
"Ned" aioe.org> wrote in message news:fgbma5$o3v$2@aioe.org...> Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
> Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007
>
> Flying in a jetliner is extraordinarily safe: There has been only one
> fatal crash in the United States in the past five years, an astounding
> record considering that more than 30,000 flights take off every day. How
> did flying get so reliable? In part, because of accidents that triggered
> crucial safety improvements. Here are eight crashes and two emergency
> landings whose influence is felt -- for the good -- each time you step on
> a plane.
>
No mention of the 1950's Comet crashes which resulted in the installation of
the black box and the process of laying out the aircraft in a hangar to
determine why it crashed. Very important methinks.
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Author: A Guy Called TykettoA Guy Called Tyketto Date: Nov 1, 2007 00:08
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> In rec.aviation.piloting Nick O'Tyme msn.com> wrote:>>
>> "Ned" aioe.org> wrote in message news:fgbma5$o3v$2@aioe.org...>>> Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
>>> Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007
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>>> Flying in a jetliner is extraordinarily safe: There has been only one
>>> fatal crash in the United States in the past five years, an astounding
>>> record considering that more than 30,000 flights take off every day. How
>>> did flying get so reliable? In part, because of accidents that triggered
>>> crucial safety improvements. Here are eight crashes and two emergency
>>> landings whose influence is felt -- for the good -- each time you step
>>> on
>>> a plane.
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Author: Arnold StenArnold Sten Date: Nov 1, 2007 06:13
Kwyjibo wrote:
> "Ned" aioe.org> wrote in message news:fgbma5$o3v$2@aioe.org...>> Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
>> Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007
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>
> Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
> I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the
> drastic changes that resulted.
>
Those four plane crashes were, in my opinion, not accidents, but
deliberate and pre-meditated acts of suicide and murder. To me, that
would explain why those did not make the list.
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Author: MartyMarty Date: Nov 1, 2007 09:03
Nick O'Tyme wrote:
> No mention of the 1950's Comet crashes which resulted in the installation of
> the black box and the process of laying out the aircraft in a hangar to
> determine why it crashed. Very important methinks.
This thread was entitled "Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation", and
NOT "The TOP TEN Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation". If it was - or if
we as a group were to compile the list ourselves - I'm sure the list would
be very different. Perhaps the author omitted the word top bit for very
good reason...
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Author: KwyjiboKwyjibo Date: Nov 1, 2007 15:43
"Arnold Sten" nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:N7ydnUc22YZ7TbTanZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com...> Kwyjibo wrote:
>> "Ned" aioe.org> wrote in message news:fgbma5$o3v$2@aioe.org...>>> Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
>>> Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007
>>
>>
>> Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
>> I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given
>> the drastic changes that resulted.
>>
> Those four plane crashes were, in my opinion, not accidents, but
> deliberate and pre-meditated acts of suicide and murder. To me, that would
> explain why those did not make the list.
Ahh, but the title of the article is "Ten Plane *Crashes* That Changed
Aviation", not "Ten Plane *Accidents* That Changed Aviation".
No reason for them to be excluded, given the massive changes to aviation
that resulted worldwide.
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Date: Nov 1, 2007 16:03
On Oct 31, 11:31 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> Kwyjibo wrote:
>> "Ned" aioe.org> wrote in messagenews:fgbma5$o3v$2@aioe.org...>>> Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
>>> Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007
>>
>
>> Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
>> I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the
>> drastic changes that resulted.
>
> No, because the changes haven't resulted in any increase in safety.
I'd argue that there have been significant increases in safety
since those attacks. I'll go so far as to predict that there will
be no more succesful airliner hijackings in the rest of my lifetime.
But the reason has absolutely nothing to do with the government's
many actions. They could stop screening passengers entirely,
and hijackings still wouldn't be feasible.
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