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Date: Apr 14, 2008 15:06
Delivered in the US...engine required work to get it running properly
and be considered safe for the ferry to Aust.
Test flights all OK until the ac was tanked and fully loaded for the
first leg to Hilo when control problems forced a return to Santa
Maria.
It was found that right flap and aileron had been incorrectly rigged
and caused problems in ferry config.
The Archer is now grounded in Pago Pago awaiting a new alternator
after a complete electrical failure on the leg from Christmas Island
to Pago.....fortunately another aircraft shadowed them in to a safe
landing and the leg was in daylight.
Well done Piper!!?
OzOne of the three twins
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Author: veritasveritas Date: Apr 14, 2008 16:46
OzOne wrote:
> Delivered in the US...engine required work to get it running properly
> and be considered safe for the ferry to Aust.
> Test flights all OK until the ac was tanked and fully loaded for the
> first leg to Hilo when control problems forced a return to Santa
> Maria.
> It was found that right flap and aileron had been incorrectly rigged
> and caused problems in ferry config.
> The Archer is now grounded in Pago Pago awaiting a new alternator
> after a complete electrical failure on the leg from Christmas Island
> to Pago.....fortunately another aircraft shadowed them in to a safe
> landing and the leg was in daylight.
>
> Well done Piper!!?
Anyone choosing to ferry any brand-new (light) aircraft over an ocean is
just plain crazy. At *least* 200 hours should be on the clock - that's
the *minimum* shake-down time.
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Author: PitsPits Date: Apr 14, 2008 16:52
On Apr 15, 7:46 am, veritas xxxxx.com> wrote:> OzOne wrote:
>> Delivered in the US...engine required work to get it running properly
>> and be considered safe for the ferry to Aust.
>> Test flights all OK until the ac was tanked and fully loaded for the
>> first leg to Hilo when control problems forced a return to Santa
>> Maria.
>> It was found that right flap and aileron had been incorrectly rigged
>> and caused problems in ferry config.
>> The Archer is now grounded in Pago Pago awaiting a new alternator
>> after a complete electrical failure on the leg from Christmas Island
>> to Pago.....fortunately another aircraft shadowed them in to a safe
>> landing and the leg was in daylight.
>
>> Well done Piper!!?
>
> Anyone choosing to ferry any brand-new (light) aircraft over an ocean is
> just plain crazy. At *least* 200 hours should be on the clock - that's
> the *minimum* shake-down time.
> ...
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Date: Apr 14, 2008 17:45
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:52:48 -0700 (PDT), Pits gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Apr 15, 7:46 am, veritas xxxxx.com> wrote:>> OzOne wrote:
>>> Delivered in the US...engine required work to get it running properly
>>> and be considered safe for the ferry to Aust.
>>> Test...
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Date: Apr 14, 2008 17:56
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:46:55 +1000, veritas xxxxx.com> wrote:
>Anyone choosing to ferry any brand-new (light) aircraft over an ocean is
>just plain crazy. At *least* 200 hours should be on the clock - that's
>the *minimum* shake-down time.
It appears that the many who do ferry brand new aircraft disagee.
BTW what would you suggest that the purchaser of an aircraft do,
arrange for someomne to fly his plane around for a couple of hundred
hours, or would you accept that a flight across the US should identify
any faults?
>
>This principle was well recognised well before I first started to fly in
>the early '60s.
Recognised by whom?
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Author: veritasveritas Date: Apr 14, 2008 19:16
OzOne wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:46:55 +1000, veritas xxxxx.com> wrote:
>
> >> Anyone choosing to ferry any brand-new (light) aircraft over an ocean is
>> just plain crazy. At *least* 200 hours should be on the clock - that's
>> the *minimum* shake-down time.
>
> It appears that the many who do ferry brand new aircraft disagee.
>
> BTW what would you suggest that the purchaser of an aircraft do,
> arrange for someomne to fly his plane around for a couple of hundred
> hours, or would you accept that a flight across the US should identify
> any faults?
>> This principle was well recognised well before I first started to fly in
>> the early '60s.
>
> Recognised by whom?
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Date: Apr 14, 2008 19:32
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:16:45 +1000, veritas xxxxx.com> wrote:
>By the majority of those I spoke to (and respected) in the aviation
>industry - both then - and since. That includes ferry pilots and
>engineers with a lot more qualification and experience than you will
>ever have!
>** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Yes...yet one of the leading ferry companies in Aus regularly ferries
brand new aircraft.
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Author: veritasveritas Date: Apr 14, 2008 21:09
OzOne wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:16:45 +1000, veritas xxxxx.com> wrote:
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> >> By the majority of those I spoke to (and respected) in the aviation
>> industry - both then - and since. That includes ferry pilots and
>> engineers with a lot more qualification and experience than you will
>> ever have!
>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** >
> Yes...yet one of the leading ferry companies in Aus regularly ferries
> brand new aircraft.
>
And who would that be - and if indeed any Australian specialised ferry
companies do exist, what percentage of total world ferries have 'they'
done over the last 45 years?
You're as full of it as the Popes balls!
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
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Author: veritasveritas Date: Apr 14, 2008 21:17
Pits wrote:
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> Good morning Veritas sage advice .
> However, visit Aus cars and check the Bone fides of this poster
> smells a bit like another JGG
Yeah - the village idiot who is looking for another village...... :)
Cheers, Phil.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
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Author: KwyjiboKwyjibo Date: Apr 14, 2008 21:22
> OzOne wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:16:45 +1000, veritas xxxxx.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> By the majority of those I spoke to (and respected) in the aviation
>>> industry - both then - and since. That includes ferry pilots and
>>> engineers with a lot more qualification and experience than you will
>>> ever have!
>>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** >>
>> Yes...yet one of the leading ferry companies in Aus regularly ferries
>> brand new aircraft.
>>
>
>
> And who would that be - and if indeed any Australian specialised ferry
> companies do exist, what percentage of total world ferries have 'they'
> done over the last 45 years? ...
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