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Author: PraetorianPraetorian Date: Nov 6, 2007 23:11
"David Moss" mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote in message
news:MPG.2196cf759821c70d98acd6@news.bigpond.com...> In article news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> nothanks@dontwantany.com writes...
>>> You don't send strikers in on their own. That's what EW is for. Did you
>> know
>> that there is a Wild Weasel version of the Super Hornet going into
>> production. (The EA18G "Growler") that will replace the EA6 Prowler and
>> the
>> (now retired) EF111 Raven.
>>
>> Just imagine, a EW platform with 100%% in common with the rest of the
>> strike
>> package.
>
> Electronic Warfare packs emit radio signals designed to jam or confuse
> enemy radar. Notice the word "emit". Anything that emits RF can be
> triangulated using very basic equipment.
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Author: David MossDavid Moss Date: Nov 7, 2007 03:52
> You do realise that terrain following is a good ground-based radar counter
> measure, but not so good against a decent look-down radar on say....
> Wedgetail?
Do the Indonesians have a wedgetail?
BTW low level is more than a game of hide and seek. Once you get down
among the valleys and trees its damned difficult to hit you even if they
do detect you. They reckon there are only 3 US aircraft with much chance
of success against a really well defended target today. One of them is
the F111. We aren't getting either of the others.
DM
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Author: Ed RasimusEd Rasimus Date: Nov 7, 2007 06:34
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:11:24 GMT, "Praetorian"
dontwantany.com> wrote:
>"David Moss" mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote in message
>news:MPG.2196cf759821c70d98acd6@news.bigpond.com...>> In article news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
>> nothanks@dontwantany.com writes...
>>>>> You don't send strikers in on their own. That's what EW is for. Did you
>>> know that there is a Wild Weasel version of the Super Hornet going into
>>> production. (The EA18G "Growler") that will replace the EA6 Prowler and
>>> the (now retired) EF111 Raven.
Growler, Prowler and Raven are NOT Wild Weasels. Weasels are NOT
jammers. Weasels are hunter/killers.
>>>
>>> Just imagine, a EW platform with 100%% in common with the rest of the
>>> strike package.
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Author: NedNed Date: Nov 7, 2007 07:08
Ed Rasimus wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:11:24 GMT, "Praetorian"
> dontwantany.com> wrote:
> >> "David Moss" mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.2196cf759821c70d98acd6@news.bigpond.com...>>> In article news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
>>> nothanks@dontwantany.com writes...
>>>>>>> You don't send strikers in on their own. That's what EW is for. Did you
>>>> know that there is a Wild Weasel version of the Super Hornet going into
>>>> production. (The EA18G "Growler") that will replace the EA6 Prowler and
>>>> the (now retired) EF111 Raven.
>
> Growler, Prowler and Raven are NOT Wild Weasels. Weasels are NOT
> jammers. Weasels are hunter/killers.
>>>> Just imagine, a EW platform with 100%% in common with the rest of the
>>>> strike package.
>
> Why? No real benefit. Different mission, different weapons, different ...
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Author: Mike KanzeMike Kanze Date: Nov 7, 2007 16:27
Ed,
>Growler, Prowler and Raven are NOT Wild Weasels. Weasels are NOT jammers. Weasels are hunter/killers.
Small point, but IIRC the current EA-6B is HARM-equipped/capable. That would make it a "weasel," n'est-ce pas?
True that in its very early deployments (very end of the VN era) the EA-6B Prowler had no offensive capability. At that time, the "Weasel" role ("Iron Hand" to the VN era US Navy) was performed for carrier-based airwings by the SHRIKE and Standard ARM equipped A-6B.
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Mike Kanze
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- Cynical comment posted in Revolution Books, New York City
"Ed Rasimus" verizon.net> wrote in message news:2ji3j3ln3sdjqdpcc7jeqgrm0t0lphmlti@4ax.com...
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:11:24 GMT, "Praetorian"
dontwantany.com> wrote:
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Author: LeadfootLeadfoot Date: Nov 7, 2007 19:08
Growler is supposed to be HARM equipped also
"Mike Kanze" comcast.net> wrote in message news:EaCdnabtuumXxa_anZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@comcast.com...
Ed,
>Growler, Prowler and Raven are NOT Wild Weasels. Weasels are NOT jammers. Weasels are hunter/killers.
Small point, but IIRC the current EA-6B is HARM-equipped/capable. That would make it a "weasel," n'est-ce pas?
True that in its very early deployments (very end of the VN era) the EA-6B Prowler had no offensive capability. At that time, the "Weasel" role ("Iron Hand" to the VN era US Navy) was performed for carrier-based airwings by the SHRIKE and Standard ARM equipped A-6B.
--
Mike Kanze
"If voting could really change things, it would be illegal."
- Cynical comment posted in Revolution Books, New York City
"Ed Rasimus" verizon.net> wrote in message news:2ji3j3ln3sdjqdpcc7jeqgrm0t0lphmlti@4ax.com...
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:11:24 GMT, "Praetorian"
dontwantany.com> wrote:
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Author: PraetorianPraetorian Date: Nov 7, 2007 23:03
"Ed Rasimus" verizon.net> wrote in message
news:2ji3j3ln3sdjqdpcc7jeqgrm0t0lphmlti@4ax.com...> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:11:24 GMT, "Praetorian"
> dontwantany.com> wrote:
>>>"David Moss" mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote in message
>>news:MPG.2196cf759821c70d98acd6@news.bigpond.com...>>> In article news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
>>> nothanks@dontwantany.com writes...
>>>>>>> You don't send strikers in on their own. That's what EW is for. Did you
>>>> know that there is a Wild Weasel version of the Super Hornet going into
>>>> production. (The EA18G "Growler") that will replace the EA6 Prowler and
>>>> the (now retired) EF111 Raven.
>
> Growler, Prowler and Raven are NOT Wild Weasels. Weasels are NOT
> jammers. Weasels are hunter/killers...
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Author: KwyjiboKwyjibo Date: Nov 7, 2007 23:34
> "Ed Rasimus" verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:2ji3j3ln3sdjqdpcc7jeqgrm0t0lphmlti@4ax.com...>> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:11:24 GMT, "Praetorian"
>> dontwantany.com> wrote:
>>>>>"David Moss" mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote in message
>>>news:MPG.2196cf759821c70d98acd6@news.bigpond.com...>>>> In article news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
>>>> nothanks@dontwantany.com writes...
>>>>>>>>> You don't send strikers in on their own. That's what EW is for. Did
>>>>> you
>>>>> know that there is a Wild Weasel version of the Super Hornet going
>>>>> into
>>>>> production. (The EA18G "Growler") that will replace the EA6 Prowler
>>>>> and
>>>>> the (now retired) EF111 Raven.
>> ...
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Author: David MossDavid Moss Date: Nov 8, 2007 03:18
In article <2ji3j3ln3sdjqdpcc7jeqgrm0t0lphmlti@ 4ax.com>,
rasimusSPAMLESS@ verizon.net writes...
> Pulse doppler radars have provided excellent look-down/shoot down
> since the late '70s. Ground clutter for an airborne platform simply
> does not exist.
>
> I learned that very impressively one day while tooling down the New
> Mexico desert at 75' and 500 knots with one wing-tip nestled against
> Mockingbird Ridge for vertical shielding enroute to a target. Got
> nailed by a pair of F-15s that had me locked for the last fifteen
> miles.
What were your Knucks doing while you were getting nailed?
I realise weasels like to hunt alone, but pigs usually like a bit of top
cover when they go sneaking around near the treetops.
DM
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