> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:58:30 -0700 (PDT), Pits gmail.com>
> wrote:
>

>>On Jun 30, 4:59 pm, Ned pizzacheeze.com> wrote:

>>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:24:51 +1000, Sam hihat.com> wrote:

>>>>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:43:40 +1000, RT wrote:

>>>

>>>>>Imagine how the bloke that fired the live rounds
>>>>>feels.................

>>>

>>>>Agree

>>>
>>> Definitely!
>>>
>>> Amazing how the forensic experts here have immediately condemned him
>>> as being obviously negligent, a nutter or worse still - being a Frog!
>>>
>>> Oh well, City Homicide, Criminal Minds and Boston Legal back-to-back
>>> should see these ace armchair detectives (NOT) more usefully employed
>>> for the remainder of this evening.
>>>
>>> Ned

>>
>>Ned as you are the one who first raised this issue in AA .It would be
>>logical given your experiences on here to expect a certain amount of
>>armchair conjecture surely ?
>>

> Oh for sure PITS. But given even the limited amount of initial
> information available surely it is not too much to expect even half
> informed conjecture.
>
> The wouldn't he have seen them falling?, noticed they were live rounds
> in the mag, felt the weight difference, stop firing,etc etc etc are
> just tooooooo absurd to be seriously entertained.
>
> We're talking a 2 secs max instant in time when the action was in full
> flight..................sheesh.
>

>>2 Refs to the Historical French propensity to avoid dive duck and
>>weave deny lie and so on is well documented from going back a few
>>centuries .
>>

> IMHO Australians...all of us, stood by and apathetically allowed the
> previous Government to give away for ever the high moral ground fought
> for and held by our forebears and mates.
>
> Sadly we Aussies, as a nation, or individually, no longer have the
> right to point moral fingers at anybody.
>
>

>>Normally I would mention rainbow warrior & certain events in Chad
>>plus a few more but I shall not . Simply I can not resile from my
>>opinion some aspects of the French attitude to ot appear as open as
>>some . Bute ven the French did not spin a WMD line that no thinking
>>person swallowed at the time :-)
>>
>>Swapping black boxes springs to mind in an aviation group (not an
>>exclusive habit of the French however)
>>
>>Nor Can I resile from my opinion that a smell exists because of so
>>many procedural breakdowns to this sad event. NOWHERE did I infer or
>>state that a nut case or the poor bugger pulling the trigger was any
>>more than a link in a sad chain of events. And like always await for
>>additional facts . However the FACT is that a number of people have
>>blood squishing out of holes in them because of Penetration of metal
>>that it appears came from a weapon be it rounds bits of BFA and
>>barrel or pretzel hiding in the crowd with a slingshot waiting for a
>>barrel rolling airbus :)
>>

>
> As you've no doubt read the French army chief of staff, Gen Bruno
> Cuche, has resigned over the incident.
>
> It may well be that Cuche spat the dummy over Sarko's repeated harsh
> criticism coming on top of already threatened army cuts. Publicly
> calling the Generals collectively a bunch of amateurs was I imagine
> rather "galling".
>

>>Pushes packing case towards ned so he can easily get off a higher
>>horse than normal :-)
>>

> You been talkin to my missus...right? :-)
>
> Happy to cop it sweet. Sorry if that's the way you see it or that's
> the way I'd presented it. But I'd rather thought it was me calling
> others, for riding too high on their nags.
>
> Oh, BTW I was a longtime Francophobe too PITS. But that turned around
> somewhat one particular day in late April in a little place called
> Villers-Bretonneux. You may have heard of it. :-)
>
>
> Cheers
> Ned