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Author: NedNed Date: Jan 6, 2008 06:04
Finally mastered how many three-ounce bottles of liquids you can carry on to a
commercial flight and figure you can now breeze through airport check-in? You
might need to think again.
The Transportation Department has issued new rules, effective Jan. 1, 2008,
governing transportation of the lithium batteries used to power a range of
electronic devices, including portable computers, cell phones, personal digital
assistants and cameras.
The department has advised travelers that they can no longer pack spare lithium
batteries in their checked baggage, and instead must put them in carry-on
luggage. And the batteries should be in their original retail packaging, have
their tips covered by electrical tape or be in a clear plastic bag.
Lithium batteries are considered hazardous materials because they can overheat
and ignite under certain conditions. Safety tests conducted by the Federal
Aviation Administration have found that aircraft cargo fire suppression systems
would not be capable of putting out a fire if a shipment of nonrechargeable
lithium batteries were ignited during a flight.
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Author: PitsPits Date: Jan 6, 2008 08:08
On Jan 6, 11:04 pm, Ned aioe.org> wrote:> Finally mastered how many three-ounce bottles of liquids you can carry on to a
> commercial flight and figure you can now breeze through airport check-in? You
> might need to think again.
>
> The Transportation Department has issued new rules, effective Jan. 1, 2008,
> governing transportation of the lithium batteries used to power a range of
> electronic devices, including portable computers, cell phones, personal digital
> assistants and cameras.
>
> The department has advised travelers that they can no longer pack spare lithium
> batteries in their checked baggage, and instead must put them in carry-on
> luggage. And the batteries should be in their original retail packaging, have
> their tips covered by electrical tape or be in a clear plastic bag.
>
> Lithium batteries are considered hazardous materials because they can overheat
> and ignite under certain conditions. Safety tests conducted by the Federal
> Aviation Administration have found that aircraft cargo fire suppression systems
> would not be capable of putting out a fire if a shipment of nonrechargeable
> lithium batteries were ignited during a flight. ...
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Author: terryterry Date: Jan 6, 2008 12:02
On Jan 7, 3:08 am, Pits gmail.com> wrote:> On Jan 6, 11:04 pm, Ned aioe.org> wrote:
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>>> Finally mastered how many three-ounce bottles of liquids you can carry on to a
>> commercial flight and figure you can now breeze through airport check-in? You
>> might need to think again.
>
>> The Transportation Department has issued new rules, effective Jan. 1, 2008,
>> governing transportation of the lithium batteries used to power a range of
>> electronic devices, including portable computers, cell phones, personal digital
>> assistants and cameras.
>
>> The department has advised travelers that they can no longer pack spare lithium
>> batteries in their checked baggage, and instead must put them in carry-on
>> luggage. And the batteries should be in their original retail packaging, have
>> their tips covered by electrical tape or be in a clear plastic bag. ...
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Author: Sylvia ElseSylvia Else Date: Jan 6, 2008 12:51
Ned wrote:
> Safety tests conducted by the Federal
> Aviation Administration have found that aircraft cargo fire suppression
> systems
> would not be capable of putting out a fire if a shipment of nonrechargeable
> lithium batteries were ignited during a flight.
So, on the face of it, the problem lies in shipments of non-rechargeable
batteries, not with the spare batteries of individual passengers.
That said, I'd have thought it was undesirable to have anything that's a
significant fire risk in the hold.
Sylvia.
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Author: PitsPits Date: Jan 6, 2008 16:30
On Jan 7, 7:43 am, Craig Welch pacific.net.sg> wrote:> terry wrote:
>> How come they let you carry a cigarette lighter when it is illegal to
>> smoke. What else would you do with a cigarette lighter on your
>> person, other than perhaps set the aircraft on fire.
On a safety aspect of lighters The pressurised gas types such as Bics
and similar
Yonks ago a safety report came to us from the US
From memory involved a coast guard C130
They were at a height above 10,000 feet Cant recall but not all That
much above from memory
They had to drop some parcahutists in a the days of HALO .
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Author: David BennettsDavid Bennetts Date: Jan 6, 2008 17:06
"terry" iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:5d7b1ee6-7ff2-4886-b546-02d069233544@j78g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 7, 3:08 am, Pits gmail.com> wrote:
How come they let you carry a cigarette lighter when it is illegal to
smoke. What else would you do with a cigarette lighter on your
person, other than perhaps set the aircraft on fire.
You can't be delayed in your quest to smoke as soon as you get off the
plane, despite the danger to the aircraft. It would disadvantage the
tobacco industry if smokers were delayed in having to buy lighters at their
destination.
A good question to put to the current US Ambassador to Australia, appointed
by the one and only G W Shrub.
See a potted history of him at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_McCallum,_Jr.
And illegal to carry chemical sensing equipment?, is this to stop me
determining whether I really am being poisoned from oil contamination
of the cabin air, or pesticides used in the aircraft?
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Author: brian w edgintonbrian w edginton Date: Jan 6, 2008 17:37
On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 08:43:20 +1000, Craig Welch pacific.net.sg>
wrote:
>terry wrote:
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>> How come they let you carry a cigarette lighter when it is illegal to
>> smoke. What else would you do with a cigarette lighter on your
>> person, other than perhaps set the aircraft on fire.
>
>You would light your cigarette at the other end of your journey.
Of course....
same as they might let you wear your safety boots.....even if you
MIGHT kick someone to death with them on the plane....
I mean....
We gotta have some frigging freedoms!
Eh?
------------------------------------------
brianWE
I live and learn....mainly, though, I just live.
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Author: gonesailing_gonefishinggonesailing_gonefishing Date: Jan 7, 2008 00:21
On Jan 7, 2:08 am, Pits gmail.com> wrote:> On Jan 6, 11:04 pm, Ned aioe.org> wrote:
>
>
>>> Finally mastered how many three-ounce bottles of liquids you can carry on to a
>> commercial flight and figure you can now breeze through airport check-in? You
>> might need to think again.
>
>> The Transportation Department has issued new rules, effective Jan. 1, 2008,
>> governing transportation of the lithium batteries used to power a range of
>> electronic devices, including portable computers, cell phones, personal digital
>> assistants and cameras.
>
>> The department has advised travelers that they can no longer pack spare lithium
>> batteries in their checked baggage, and instead must put them in carry-on
>> luggage. And the batteries should be in their original retail packaging, have
>> their tips covered by electrical tape or be in a clear plastic bag.
>
>> Lithium batteries are considered hazardous materials because they can overheat ...
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Author: NedNed Date: Jan 7, 2008 01:32
Pits wrote:
Thanks Pits - I don't normally travel on QF.
Still, do find it rather odd in view of the history of laptop fires and air
cargo fires that one can still check in a laptop, camera etc with lithium or
li-ion batteries installed. The UPS DC-8 substantially destroyed by the in
flight cargo hold fire in 2006 was carrying both types.
They probably all bear that well known guarantee of manufacturing excellence too
"Made In China" .
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Author: PitsPits Date: Jan 7, 2008 07:43
On Jan 7, 6:32 pm, Ned aioe.org> wrote:> Pits wrote:
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>> Coughs in a polite manner .
>> Then Kicks ned in the ankle
>> Hey read this
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> Thanks Pits - I don't normally travel on QF.
>
> Still, do find it rather odd in view of the history of laptop fires and air
> cargo fires that one can still check in a laptop, camera etc with lithium or
> li-ion batteries installed. The UPS DC-8 substantially destroyed by the in
> flight cargo hold fire in 2006 was carrying both types.
>
> They probably all bear that well known guarantee of manufacturing excellence too
> "Made In China" .
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