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Author: Oz Lander
Date: Dec 28, 2007 04:08

I just watched that Air Crash Investigators show about the Columbia
disaster from a few nights ago.
Why does the shuttle have to travel so fast to re-enter? Why can't it
come in at a more normal speed and avoid the whole burning up thing?
--
Oz Lander.
Straight and Level Down Under Forum.
http://www.straightandleveldownunder.net
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Author: RT
Date: Dec 28, 2007 06:10

"Oz Lander" there.com.ca> wrote in message
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>
> I just watched that Air Crash Investigators show about the Columbia
> disaster from a few nights ago.
> Why does the shuttle have to travel so fast to re-enter? Why can't it
> come in at a more normal speed and avoid the whole burning up thing?
> --
> Oz Lander.
> Straight and Level Down Under Forum.
> http://www.straightandleveldownunder.net

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Re: Space Shuttle.         


Author: Oz Lander
Date: Dec 28, 2007 07:09

RT wrote:
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Author: terry
Date: Dec 28, 2007 12:04

On Dec 28, 11:08 pm, "Oz Lander" there.com.ca> wrote:
> I just watched that Air Crash Investigators show about the Columbia
> disaster from a few nights ago.
> Why does the shuttle have to travel so fast to re-enter? Why can't it
> come in at a more normal speed and avoid the whole burning up thing?
> --
> Oz Lander.

Oz, a spacecraft, satellite , moon , whatever to achieve orbit has to
be moving at a hell of a speed. Think of the trajectory when you
throw a ball horizontally. It gradually curves back down to earth...
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Author: terry
Date: Dec 28, 2007 12:13

On Dec 29, 1:10 am, "RT" nowhere.com.au> wrote:
> "Oz Lander" there.com.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:fl2ovf$1d6$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
>
>
>
>> I just watched that Air Crash Investigators show about the Columbia
>> disaster from a few nights ago.
>> Why does the shuttle have to travel so fast to re-enter? Why can't it
>> come in at a more normal speed and avoid the whole burning up thing?
>> --
>> Oz Lander.
>> Straight and Level Down Under Forum.
>>http://www.straightandleveldownunder.net
>
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Re: Space Shuttle.         


Date: Dec 28, 2007 13:22

terry wrote:
> On Dec 28, 11:08 pm, "Oz Lander" there.com.ca> wrote:
>> I just watched that Air Crash Investigators show about the Columbia
>> disaster from a few nights ago.
>> Why does the shuttle have to travel so fast to re-enter? Why can't it
>> come in at a more normal speed and avoid the whole burning up thing?
>> --
>> Oz Lander.
>
> Oz, a spacecraft, satellite , moon , whatever to achieve orbit has to
> be moving at a hell of a speed. Think of the trajectory when you
> throw a ball horizontally. It gradually curves back down to earth.
> Now throw it a bit harder , and then harder and then harder again, see
> how the curve of the trajectory gets less. If you were above the
> atmosphere ( where there is still gravity but no air friction) its
> curvature will be the same as the earths, so it keeps being pulled
> down , but never gets there. For any object to move in a circle it
> requires a centripetal force towards the center of the circle.
> Gravity provides that force. Centripetal force required is equal to
> mv(squared)/ r where m is the mass, v is the velocity and r is the ...
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Re: Space Shuttle.         


Author: Coop
Date: Dec 28, 2007 13:58

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:08:15 +0000 (UTC), "Oz Lander"
there.com.ca> wrote:
>
>I just watched that Air Crash Investigators show about the Columbia
>disaster from a few nights ago.
>Why does the shuttle have to travel so fast to re-enter? Why can't it
>come in at a more normal speed and avoid the whole burning up thing?

G'Day OzLander,

Terry's answer gives you the reasons why the shuttle has to reach a
speed of about 27,000 kph in order to achieve orbital velocity. Note
that this is the horizontal component of their velocity- the vertical...
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Author: terry
Date: Dec 28, 2007 14:20

On Dec 29, 8:58 am, Coop chariotnose.netwheel.au> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:08:15 +0000 (UTC), "Oz Lander"
>
> there.com.ca> wrote:
>
>>I just watched that Air Crash Investigators show about the Columbia
>>disaster from a few nights ago.
>>Why does the shuttle have to travel so fast to re-enter? Why can't it
>>come in at a more normal speed and avoid the whole burning up thing?
>
> G'Day OzLander,
>
> Terry's answer gives you the reasons why the shuttle has to reach a
> speed of about 27,000 kph in order to achieve orbital velocity. Note
> that this is the horizontal component of their velocity- the vertical
> launch at the beginning is to get them out of the atmosphere so that
> they can reach that speed.
> In order to return to earth you have to slow the machine down again,
> either by burning an equivalent amount of fuel (which you have to take
> with you when you launch, meaning even more fuel, etc. etc.) or by ...
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Re: Space Shuttle.         


Author: Nick O'Tyme
Date: Dec 28, 2007 14:34

"terry" iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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On Dec 29, 8:58 am, Coop chariotnose.netwheel.au> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:08:15 +0000 (UTC), "Oz Lander"
>

I did the sums once to see how much energy was expended getting to
orbital altitude versus what was required to get to orbital speed.
From memory the altitude only required about 1/6th of the total. This
highlights just what a massive jump it is from a sub orbital to
orbital flights.
terry

And as soon as we get a material strong enough, it makes the space elevator
look very attractive.

cheers
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Re: Space Shuttle.         


Author: ric
Date: Dec 28, 2007 16:47

"Oz Lander" there.com.ca> wrote in message
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> RT wrote:
>
>>
>> "Oz Lander" there.com.ca> wrote in message
>> news:fl2ovf$1d6$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
>>>
>>> I just watched that Air Crash Investigators show about the Columbia
>>> disaster from a few nights ago.
>>> Why does the shuttle have to travel so fast to re-enter? Why can't
>>> it come in at a more normal speed and avoid the whole burning up
>>> thing? -- Oz Lander.
>>> Straight and Level Down Under Forum.
>>> http://www.straightandleveldownunder.net
>>
>> ____________________________________________
>>
>>
>> ...
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