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Author: Pits
Date: Jan 20, 2008 19:01

Reading the report on a airbus just out in the UK .
The report mentions in its analysis section that neither of the crew
had any training in flying in that type of aircraft on stand bye
instruments .

For discussion
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Re: Sim training stand by instruments         


Author: Sylvia Else
Date: Jan 20, 2008 19:12

Pits wrote:
> Reading the report on a airbus just out in the UK .
> The report mentions in its analysis section that neither of the crew
> had any training in flying in that type of aircraft on stand bye
> instruments .
>
>
> For discussion

It just reflects a view that resorting to standby instruments was in the
"can't happen" category, and that the instruments were only there to
pacify the regulator. This view is further supported by the fact that as
originally implemented, the standby instruments did not have an
independent power supply for illumination.

Sylvia.
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Re: Sim training stand by instruments         


Author: veritas
Date: Jan 20, 2008 20:32

Sylvia Else wrote:
> Pits wrote:
>> Reading the report on a airbus just out in the UK .
>> The report mentions in its analysis section that neither of the crew
>> had any training in flying in that type of aircraft on stand bye
>> instruments.

During my entire, rather insignificant, career - neither had I had such
training - ever.......
>>
>>
>> For discussion
>
> It just reflects a view that resorting to standby instruments was in the
> "can't happen" category, and that the instruments were only there to
> pacify the regulator.

Crap - they are *exactly* the same shape/format and give the same
information as the primary ones - only, usually, a tad smaller in size -
let's not get too pedantic about this.
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Re: Sim training stand by instruments         


Author: Sylvia Else
Date: Jan 20, 2008 20:55

veritas wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:
>> Pits wrote:
>>> Reading the report on a airbus just out in the UK .
>>> The report mentions in its analysis section that neither of the crew
>>> had any training in flying in that type of aircraft on stand bye
>>> instruments.
>
> During my entire, rather insignificant, career - neither had I had such
> training - ever.......
>
>>>
>>>
>>> For discussion
>>
>> It just reflects a view that resorting to standby instruments was in
>> the "can't happen" category, and that the instruments were only there
>> to pacify the regulator.
>
> ...
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Re: Sim training stand by instruments         


Author: Pits
Date: Jan 20, 2008 23:11

On Jan 21, 1:32 pm, veritas coldmail.com> wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:
>> Pits wrote:
>>> Reading the report on a airbus just out in the UK .
>>> The report mentions in its analysis section that neither of the crew
>>> had any training in flying in that type of aircraft on stand bye
>>> instruments.
>
> During my entire, rather insignificant, career - neither had I had such
> training - ever.......
>
>
>
>>> For discussion
>
>> It just reflects a view that resorting to standby instruments was in the
>> "can't happen" category, and that the instruments were only there to
>> pacify the regulator.
>
> Crap - they are *exactly* the same shape/format and give the same ...
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Re: Sim training stand by instruments         


Author: Kwyjibo
Date: Jan 20, 2008 23:20

"Sylvia Else" wrote in message
news:479425ab$0$10472$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> veritas wrote:
>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> Pits wrote:
>>>> Reading the report on a airbus just out in the UK .
>>>> The report mentions in its analysis section that neither of the crew
>>>> had any training in flying in that type of aircraft on stand bye
>>>> instruments.
>>
>> During my entire, rather insignificant, career - neither had I had such
>> training - ever.......
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For discussion
>>>
>>> It just reflects a view that resorting to standby instruments was in the
>>> "can't happen" category, and that the instruments were only there to
>>> pacify the regulator. ...
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Re: Sim training stand by instruments         


Author: RT
Date: Jan 20, 2008 23:24

"Pits" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:aa7781d6-4d89-480c-9d76-b52bc3fee058@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> Reading the report on a airbus just out in the UK .
> The report mentions in its analysis section that neither of the crew
> had any training in flying in that type of aircraft on stand bye
> instruments .
>
>
> For discussion

With a full glass cockpit do you *GET* standby instruments?
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Re: Sim training stand by instruments         


Author: RT
Date: Jan 20, 2008 23:49

"Pits" gmail.com> wrote in message news:ed637e11-7646-4ddc-9c58-
> One ALWAYS needs a bog roll . and a FRED Flaming ridiculous eating
> device (the can opener spoon thing out of ration oz packs)
>
> Handy for sheep duffing but that is another story :)

Ok, I'll bite. How the hell do you use one of those silly little things to
duff sheep.

Blardy hell - spent 2 weeks at cadet camp in 1960 eating 1 man ration packs
dated 1945 :-(

If you tried to do that nowadays the RSPCA'd have you!
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Re: Sim training stand by instruments         


Author: Sylvia Else
Date: Jan 21, 2008 00:16

Kwyjibo wrote:
> "Sylvia Else" wrote in message
> news:479425ab$0$10472$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> veritas wrote:
>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> Pits wrote:
>>>>> Reading the report on a airbus just out in the UK .
>>>>> The report mentions in its analysis section that neither of the crew
>>>>> had any training in flying in that type of aircraft on stand bye
>>>>> instruments.
>>> During my entire, rather insignificant, career - neither had I had such
>>> training - ever.......
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For discussion
>>>> It just reflects a view that resorting to standby instruments was in the
>>>> "can't happen" category, and that the instruments were only there to
>>>> pacify the regulator.
>>>
>>> Crap - they are *exactly* the same shape/format and give the same ...
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Re: Sim training stand by instruments         


Author: Kwyjibo
Date: Jan 21, 2008 01:13

"Sylvia Else" wrote in message
news:479454d2$0$26343$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Kwyjibo wrote:
>> "Sylvia Else" wrote in message
>> news:479425ab$0$10472$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>> veritas wrote:
>>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>> Pits wrote:
>>>>>> Reading the report on a airbus just out in the UK .
>>>>>> The report mentions in its analysis section that neither of the crew
>>>>>> had any training in flying in that type of aircraft on stand bye
>>>>>> instruments.
>>>> During my entire, rather insignificant, career - neither had I had such
>>>> training - ever.......
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For discussion
>>>>> It just reflects a view that resorting to standby instruments was in
>>>>> the "can't happen" category, and that the instruments were only there
>>>>> to pacify the regulator. ...
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