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Author: AAAA Date: May 10, 2008 21:50
terry wrote:
> Im a little bit rusty on my Restricted area procedures ( bascially cos
> i havent had to go near them for yonks or have deliberately avoided
> them).
>
> If for example an area is listed in ersa as being restriced during
> daylight hours on weekdays and there are no notams to the contrary,
> should one ( as I normally would) just assume I cant go there during
> those times , or is it still worth asking ATC for a clearance?
> Would ATC have any other information that would allow them to give a
> clearance?
>
> Secondly, in the same example above, if I was flying through on a
> weekend can I just go straight through without asking for a clearance?
> Terry
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Author: terryterry Date: May 11, 2008 00:04
On May 11, 2:50 pm, AA yahoo.com.au> wrote:> terry wrote:
>> Im a little bit rusty on my Restricted area procedures ( bascially cos
>> i havent had to go near them for yonks or have deliberately avoided
>> them).
>
>> If for example an area is listed in ersa as being restriced during
>> daylight hours on weekdays and there are no notams to the contrary,
>> should one ( as I normally would) just assume I cant go there during
>> those times , or is it still worth asking ATC for a clearance?
>> Would ATC have any other information that would allow them to give a
>> clearance?
>
>> Secondly, in the same example above, if I was flying through on a
>> weekend can I just go straight through without asking for a clearance?
>> Terry
>
> You've got it about right - check ERSA, check NOTAMs - if not active,
> through you go. However, some areas can be activated at short notice -
> you may have got your NOTAMs a few hours ago, so it's not a bad idea to ...
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Author: CoopCoop Date: May 11, 2008 06:13
On Sun, 11 May 2008 00:04:06 -0700 (PDT), terry
iprimus.com.au> wrote:
>On May 11, 2:50 pm, AA yahoo.com.au> wrote:>> terry wrote:
>>> Im a little bit rusty on my Restricted area procedures ( bascially cos
>>> i havent had to go near them for yonks or...
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Author: terryterry Date: May 11, 2008 13:18
On May 11, 6:09 pm, GB kickindanuts.threefiddy.com> wrote:>> Perhaps a better question to ask is what would others do in this
>> situation?
>
> They'd probably just go flying rather than trying their damndest
> to emulate Sylvia with answerless circular questions.
>
To the contrary I have found Sylvia to be one of the more intelligent
contributors to the group, but thanks for your input. I will take your
advice on board, with an appropriate weighting factor, along with the
useful information people have kindly provided.
Terry
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Author: SR20GOERSR20GOER Date: May 11, 2008 17:30
"terry" iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:dc8286b7-1f52-44c4-a513-cef95db4b70e@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On May 11, 2:50 pm, AA yahoo.com.au> wrote:> terry wrote:
I realise I can always contact ATC and ask, but I
would rather not clutter up the frequency unneccesarily, I am just
trying to get a better feel for when I should and shouldnt bother
them.
Take R323A and R323B ( Westernport VIC) there is a current NOTAM
deactivating them until Nov 19 should I still check with ATC before
flying through before then? or can that NOTAM be withdrawn at any
time? ( obviously I would always check the NOTAM is still valid on
the day of my flight).
Perhaps a better question to ask is what would others do in this
situation?
Terry
Terry
323 is a good example to mention. The deactivation is strange as it's navy
gunnery - perhaps the budget cuts means they have used up their year's ammo?
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Author: PitsPits Date: May 11, 2008 18:12
On May 11, 4:09 pm, GB kickindanuts.threefiddy.com> wrote:>> Perhaps a better question to ask is what would others do in this
>> situation?
>
> They'd probably just go flying rather than trying their damndest
> to emulate Sylvia with answerless circular questions.
>
> GB
> --
> .sig
Geeeeeeeeeze !1 That is a bit low and in fact *your* post is actually
is without any substantial answer content.
I notice you snipe at the lass EVERY chance you get . cut her some
slack please.
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Author: RTRT Date: May 12, 2008 00:34
"Pits" gmail.com> wrote in message news:199b4c91-2a07-4d9d-b0d0-
> I always remember when wearing another hat many years ago at
> Holsworthy having kittens when observing a DC9 fly straight through
> the range
> while 105 & and other rounds were in the air why he was there is to
> this day unanswered
What heights do 105 rounds go to (as used at Holsworthy, ie) - I go up to
only .300 WM........
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Author: rebelrebel Date: May 12, 2008 01:19
On Mon, 12 May 2008 10:30:53 +1000, "SR20GOER" aopa.com.au> wrote:
>Terry
>323 is a good example to mention. The deactivation is strange as it's navy
>gunnery - perhaps the budget cuts means they have used up their year's ammo?
or maybe they have run out of targets ;-)
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Author: terryterry Date: May 12, 2008 01:55
On May 12, 10:30 am, "SR20GOER" aopa.com.au> wrote:> "terry" iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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> news:dc8286b7-1f52-44c4-a513-cef95db4b70e@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On May 11, 2:50 pm, AA yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>> terry wrote:
>
> I realise I can always contact ATC and ask, but I
> would rather not clutter up the frequency unneccesarily, I am just
> trying to get a better feel for when I should and shouldnt bother
> them.
> Take R323A and R323B ( Westernport VIC) there is a current NOTAM
> deactivating them until Nov 19 should I still check with ATC before
> flying through before then? or can that NOTAM be withdrawn at any
> time? ( obviously I would always check the NOTAM is still valid on
> the day of my flight).
> Perhaps a better question to ask is what would others do in this
> situation?
> Terry ...
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Author: SR20GOERSR20GOER Date: May 12, 2008 14:40
"terry" iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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On May 12, 10:30 am, "SR20GOER" aopa.com.au> wrote:> "terry" iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
>
> news:dc8286b7-1f52-44c4-a513-cef95db4b70e@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On May 11, 2:50 pm, AA yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>> terry wrote:
>
Brian, now you have raised even more questions
what do they use for the tow aircraft and what is "the target"?
where does this tow aircraft take off and land?
Presumably if it is outside the restricted area they wont be shooting
at it?
when you say you hear daily of aircraft penetrating it, do you mean
via ATC ?
Terry
Paul has covered the generality of the towing.
I think a mob at EN have the contract. The a/c was at Avalon Airshow one
back I think. I also think they have/had one piston twin at times.
The drogue...
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