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Query about incident reporting to CASA         


Author: Rod Out back
Date: Aug 14, 2007 15:46

Folks,

I wondered if people could enlighten me as to the requirements to report
incidents to CASA.

I'll give you a scenario:

I know a bloke (dont we all??) who owns one of the home/factory built aircraft
you can buy that can be registered as GA or ultralight. His is registered as a
GA (VH-###) aircraft.

Bloke landed on a dirt strip a few months back, and the front undercarriage
collapsed as he turned around. Prop (wooden) shattered, and fibreglass cowls
damaged on the bottom. Visual assessment was there didnt seem to be anything
wrong with the engine sub-frame & mounts. However, he isnt a LAME, by any
stretch of the imagination.

I hear he has simply sourced a replacement prop, fitted a replacement nosewheel
asembly, and flown the aircraft across the state to have the thing looked at by
the service agent. To my knowledge, CASA havent been notified at all. Also, I
have some doubts that the services of a LAME (to assess the damage first-hand)
were used either.
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Re: Query about incident reporting to CASA         


Author: AA
Date: Aug 14, 2007 16:42

Rod,
It should be reported to ATSB and I hope you do. It's not dobbing in,
it's to improve safety and hopefully prevent him injuring/killing
somebody else. There's a 1800 number in the link.
http://www.atsb.gov.au/notification/asair/index.aspx
AA
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Re: Query about incident reporting to CASA         


Author: thegoons
Date: Aug 14, 2007 16:53

How certain are you?

"I hear", "To my knowledge", "some doubts", "my understanding is".

In any case if in doubt report to CASA and DoTaRS (ATSB).

"Rod Out back" Ihatespam.bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> Folks,
>
> I wondered if people could enlighten me as to the requirements to report...
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Re: Query about incident reporting to CASA         


Author: Rod Out back
Date: Aug 14, 2007 23:38

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:53:20 +1000, "thegoons" bigpond.com> wrote:
>How certain are you?
>
>"I hear", "To my knowledge", "some doubts", "my understanding is".

In the accident occurring in the first place? VERY.

If any effort has been made by the pilot to report it? No idea, but I doubt it.

I cant be really any more specific without leaving a blazing trail to the person
involved. Given I dont know the efforts they have made to alert the authorities
as to the incident, I am not interested in adding to the mess by sticking my
nose into it.

I am really asking what other GA pilots would feel their obligations are in such
an incident(where the accident happened to them).
>
>In any case if in doubt report to CASA and DoTaRS (ATSB).
>
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Re: Query about incident reporting to CASA         


Author: Dave Gillingham
Date: Aug 15, 2007 00:07

Good grief! Not unknown in these cases for undetected crankshaft damage among
other things - or life seriously shortened. All he needs is flying with pax
over tiger country & have the crankshaft fail & he has effectively killed
himself & friend(s). That's why, as I understand it, a full engine pulldown is
required under these circumstances.

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:42:37 +1000, AA wrote:
>Rod,
>It should be reported to ATSB and I hope you do. It's not dobbing in,
>it's to improve safety and hopefully prevent him injuring/killing
>somebody else. There's a 1800 number in the link.
>http://www.atsb.gov.au/notification/asair/index.aspx
>AA
Dave Gillingham
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Re: Query about incident reporting to CASA         


Author: ric
Date: Aug 15, 2007 05:22

"thegoons" top posted bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:46c23454$0$16330$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> How certain are you?
>
> "I hear", "To my knowledge", "some doubts", "my understanding is".
>
> In any case if in doubt report to CASA and DoTaRS (ATSB).
>
> "Rod Out back" Ihatespam.bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:2ka4c3ldds63olpp8o8d6cje5uev4da54a@4ax.com...
>> Folks,
>>
>> I wondered if people could enlighten me as to the requirements to report
>> incidents to CASA.
>>
>> I'll give you a scenario:
>>
>> I know a bloke (dont we all??) who owns one of the home/factory built
>> aircraft
>> you can buy that can be registered as GA or ultralight. His is ...
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Re: Query about incident reporting to CASA         


Author: Stealth Pilot
Date: Aug 15, 2007 05:52

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:46:16 GMT, Rod Out back
Ihatespam.bigpond.com> wrote:
>Folks,
>
>I wondered if people could enlighten me as to the requirements to report
>incidents to CASA.
>
>I'll give you a scenario:
>
>I know a bloke (dont we all??) who owns one of the home/factory built...
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Re: Query about incident reporting to CASA         


Author: Rob Ford
Date: Aug 15, 2007 15:42

Stealth Pilot wrote:
>
> it may be an omission in the australian regulations but it has never
> been illegal to prang an aircraft.
--
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Re: Query about incident reporting to CASA         


Author: thegoons
Date: Aug 15, 2007 15:47

"Rob Ford" wrote in message
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> Stealth Pilot wrote:
>>
>> it may be an omission in the australian regulations but it has never
>> been illegal to prang an aircraft.

No doubt about it, we've become a Nation of DOBBERS.

--
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Re: Query about incident reporting to CASA         


Author: VH-UNR
Date: Aug 15, 2007 15:50

He will lose his licence for failure to report if he is caught. Also,
because of the prop strike the whole engine needs to be overhauled
because you don't know what damage was done inside the crank case.
This is what happened when our 172 UNR crashed. He could potentially
be flying with some major damage just waiting to conk out as he's over
the middle of no where
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