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Group: aus.aviation · Group Profile
Author: Pits
Date: Jun 19, 2008 02:34

On Jun 19, 5:07 pm, "Mitchell Schaeffer" bigpond.net.au>
wrote:
> "Rob" mine.com> wrote in message
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> news:485a179d$1_8@news.peopletelecom.com.au...
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>> Pits wrote:
>>> Listening to the union spokesman this morning I am fast losing any
>>> sympathy for the attitude of give us what we want or we strike stance.
>
>>> It appears that a  3%% rise was on the table and rejected
>
>>> They want 5%%  take it or leave it  ( they are not actually on a
>>> poverty wage and set of tax effected conditions)
>>> Compared to some other airlines.
>
>>> personally I sense that they will end up with 3/8ths of bugger all in
>>> teh end as Dixon will just send aircraft off shore to be serviced
>>> (which is probably why he is playing hard ball with the unions any
>>> way)
>
>>> Thus this union stance to me is just plain dumb at this time.
>
>>> Shades of Pilot strike where  the companies won and pilots lost out
>>> (although at that time I agreed and still do with them)
>
>>> Opinions comments ?
>
>> Yep its not the basic wage, its all the fringe benefits, service
>> increments etc. that come with the job.
>
>> Ask what the bottom line is at the end of the year. My guess its not the
>> base, but more like double. (Basic Wage starts at $54000 first year out
>> BTW)
>
> I think thats more than a QANTASLINK F/O once they are checked to line.
>
> Mitchell

I bet any pay rises would not be BACK DATED 18 months either
see
Qantas Reaches Agreement with Engineers

Latest News
Sydney, 05 February 2008

Qantas said today that it had reached an 'in principle' Enterprise
Bargaining Agreement (EBA) with the Australian Licensed Aircraft
Engineers Association (ALAEA).

The new four-year agreement, which will be the subject of a formal
vote, covers nearly 1,600 Qantas Engineering employees.

The Chief Executive Officer of Qantas, Mr Geoff Dixon, said the
agreement was important for the Qantas Group and its employees.

"The agreement has been the subject of intense negotiations in recent
weeks and will create a foundation for jobs growth in Qantas, as well
as providing a solid base for aircraft maintenance in Australia," Mr
Dixon said.

"It will also provide certainty regarding pay and conditions over a
four-year period and will provide Qantas Engineering with the
workplace cooperation, flexibility, and efficiencies it needs to meet
cost and competitive pressures."

Key features of the agreement, which are consistent with those reached
with other Qantas unions, include:
- an annual wage increase of three per cent, backdated to January
2007;
- an increase in company superannuation contributions in accumulation
funds to no less than 10 per cent, with employees in defined benefit
schemes also able to salary sacrifice their employee contributions;
and
- changes to the number and spread of part-time and casual employees
and the lifting of restrictions on the use of fixed term contract
employment.

The agreement also covers a range of issues related to Qantas
Engineering's heavy maintenance operations, including greater roster
flexibility at key heavy maintenance bases.
end of quote
http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/dyn/au/publicaffairs/details?ArticleID=2008/may...
These guys get it pretty good and I have yet to observe one even
close to breaking out in a sweat and having work stress (unless his
coffee got cold at various crib times)

Wake up you idgeets or there will be NO jobs
-- add up all the
perks and adjust to after tax dollars and you have it sweet as .
Almost as precious as some of the gay cabin crews :)
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