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Author: Snapper
Date: Apr 25, 2008 01:56

http://www.theage.com.au/news/news/pilot-shortage-shuts-down-air-routes/2008/04/24/1208743123331...#contentSwap1

Who do we blame? The government? If so, why? The airlines, perhaps, who
tend to want to take already trained up fast jet pilots or those who have
trained up at the expense of others?

What does CASA have to do with this situation? I read here plenty of
criticism of the body, but is it justified? Does CASA have any idea of
running GA, the grass roots of any sort of flying and where these pilots
will come from, particularly for the regionals?

What is wrong with this scenario:

Qantas and Virgin Blue offer traineeships. Kids graduate from High School
with appropriate subjects. They are accepted after the usual aptitude
tests, medicals, etc. They are then trained how to fly aircraft and
starting with whatever their smallest RPT A/C are, then allowing them to
graduate to larger aircraft as their experience and ability dictates?

Is there an absolute need for them to learn how to fly Cessnas first?
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Re: Pilot Shortage Shuts down Routes         


Author: SR20GOER
Date: Apr 25, 2008 17:38

"Snapper" y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.theage.com.au/news/news/pilot-shortage-shuts-down-air-routes/2008/04/24/1208743123331...#contentSwap1
>
> Who do we blame? The government? If so, why? The airlines, perhaps, who
> tend to want to take already trained up fast jet pilots or those who have
> trained up at the expense of others?
>
> What does CASA have to do with this situation? I read here plenty of
> criticism of the body, but is it justified? Does CASA have any idea of
> running GA, the grass roots of any sort of flying and where these pilots
> will come from, particularly for the regionals?
>
> What is wrong with this scenario:
>
> Qantas and Virgin Blue offer traineeships. Kids graduate from High School
> with appropriate subjects. They are accepted after the usual aptitude
> tests, medicals, etc. They are then trained how to fly aircraft and
> starting with whatever their smallest RPT A/C are, then allowing them to ...
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Author: rebel
Date: Apr 25, 2008 19:18

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:57:00 +1000, Snapper y7mail.com> wrote:
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>http://www.theage.com.au/news/news/pilot-shortage-shuts-down-air-routes/2008/04/24/1208743123331...#contentSwap1
>
>Who do we blame? The government? If so, why? The airlines, perhaps, who
>tend to want to take already trained up fast jet pilots or those who have
>trained up at the expense of others?

I noted Rodgers' quote: "After they're trained on a small aircraft, if they
want a career in the industry they begin with a small airline flying light
aircraft in remote areas. They build up their hours and move on to one of the
major regional airlines serving big towns.

"Next stop," says Rodgers, "is flying jets for one of the big national carriers.
Some pilots make a very good career of this - while others move on to
international flying for Australian or foreign airlines."
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Author: Stealth Pilot
Date: Apr 26, 2008 03:31

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:57:00 +1000, Snapper y7mail.com>
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>http://www.theage.com.au/news/news/pilot-shortage-shuts-down-air-routes/2008/04/24/1208743123331...#contentSwap1
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>Who do we blame? The government? If so, why? The airlines, perhaps...
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Re: Pilot Shortage Shuts down Routes         


Author: Peter J Smyth
Date: Apr 26, 2008 05:38

Money.

So it costs about $100K to have a comerical pilot to be trained. Who should
pay?

The pilot? How many kids have $100,000 to spare. Maybe a HECS system?.

The airline? Can't afford it.

The passenger? Put ticket prices up any more on regionals and the bus
companies will love it! The airline will just go broke anyway.

The tax-payer? Not many tax payers would agree to pay for a pilot's
accreditation, but the tax-payer would be the first to complain when the
flight is canned.
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Author: Kwyjibo
Date: Apr 26, 2008 07:21

"Peter J Smyth" industries.com> wrote in message
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> Money.

Money what?

Try leaving some of the post you are replying to so we can see what the hell
you are talking about.

--
Kwyj.
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Re: Pilot Shortage Shuts down Routes         


Author: Peter J Smyth
Date: Apr 26, 2008 16:24

Simply replied to the one post made on "Pilot Shortage Shuts Down Routes"

One answer is money. Sorry your brain couldnt work it out.

... yes, I top posted just for you too!

"Kwyjibo" ozdebate.remove.com> wrote in message
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> "Peter J Smyth" industries.com> wrote in message
> news:48132254@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> Money.
>
> Money what?
>
> Try leaving some of the post you are replying to so we can see what the
> hell you are talking about.
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Author: SR20GOER
Date: Apr 26, 2008 16:30

"Peter J Smyth" industries.com> wrote in message
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> Money.
>
> So it costs about $100K to have a comerical pilot to be trained. Who
> should pay?
>
> The pilot? How many kids have $100,000 to spare. Maybe a HECS system?.
>
> The airline? Can't afford it.
>
> The passenger? Put ticket prices up any more on regionals and the bus
> companies will love it! The airline will just go broke anyway.
>
> The tax-payer? Not many tax payers would agree to pay for a pilot's
> accreditation, but the tax-payer would be the first to complain when the
> flight is canned.
>
There has been some talk of a HECS system but it is a two edged sword as it
would be geared toward the large 'accredited' flying schools loaded with ...
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Author: Peter J Smyth
Date: Apr 26, 2008 16:45

"SR20GOER" aopa.com.au> wrote in message
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> "Peter J Smyth" industries.com> wrote in message
> news:48132254@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> Money.
>>
>> So it costs about $100K to have a comerical pilot to be trained. Who
>> should pay?
>>
>> The pilot? How many kids have $100,000 to spare. Maybe a HECS system?.
>>
>> The airline? Can't afford it.
>>
>> The passenger? Put ticket prices up any more on regionals and the bus
>> companies will love it! The airline will just go broke anyway.
>>
>> The tax-payer? Not many tax payers would agree to pay for a pilot's
>> accreditation, but the tax-payer would be the first to complain when the
>> flight is canned. ...
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Date: Apr 26, 2008 18:16

"Peter J Smyth" industries.com> wrote in message
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> Money.
>
> So it costs about $100K to have a comerical pilot to be trained. Who
> should pay?
>
> The pilot? How many kids have $100,000 to spare. Maybe a HECS system?.
>
> The airline? Can't afford it.
>
> The passenger? Put ticket prices up any more on regionals and the bus
> companies will love it! The airline will just go broke anyway.
>
> The tax-payer? Not many tax payers would agree to pay for a pilot's
> accreditation, but the tax-payer would be the first to complain when the
> flight is canned.

Now here's a radical approach - how about funding your own future.
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