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Pilot makes first NVG Antarctic landing         


Author: Ned
Date: Sep 12, 2008 07:08

From CNN - A U.S. Air Force pilot has landed a plane in Antarctica in
the dark for the first time using night-vision goggles, a feat that
could lead to more supply flights to scientific bases in the frozen
continent during its dark winter months, officials said Friday.

The C-17 Globemaster cargo airplane landed in a driving snowstorm on the
10-kilometer (six mile) ice runway at the U.S. Antarctic research center
at McMurdo Station, after months of practice runs by pilots using the
goggles.

The Air Force plane took off from Christchurch, New Zealand, and flew
nearly six hours before landing Thursday night. It returned to
Christchurch early Friday.

Air Force Lt. Col. Jim McGann said the airplane's own lights --
reflecting off of traffic cones -- allowed it to land without electrical
runway lights that are too hard to maintain in the frozen environment.

McGann told New Zealand's national radio that the breakthrough flight
could mean year-round supply flights for U.S. and New Zealand science
bases on the ice.
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Re: Pilot makes first NVG Antarctic landing         


Author: TacAN
Date: Sep 12, 2008 21:47

"Ned" aioe.org> wrote in message news:gadt3s$b8p$1@aioe.org...
> From CNN - A U.S. Air Force pilot has landed a plane in Antarctica in the
> dark for the first time using night-vision goggles, a feat that could lead
> to more supply flights to scientific bases in the frozen continent during
> its dark winter months, officials said Friday.
>
> The C-17 Globemaster cargo airplane landed in a driving snowstorm on the
> 10-kilometer (six mile) ice runway at the U.S. Antarctic research center
> at McMurdo Station, after months of practice runs by pilots using the
> goggles.
>

Can NVG's see through a driving snow storm?

Graham
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Re: Pilot makes first NVG Antarctic landing         


Author: Spartan613
Date: Sep 13, 2008 00:17

"TacAN" wrote in message
news:NBHyk.36031$IK1.3018@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Ned" aioe.org> wrote in message news:gadt3s$b8p$1@aioe.org...
>> From CNN - A U.S. Air Force pilot has landed a plane in Antarctica in the
>> dark for the first time using night-vision goggles, a feat that could
>> lead to more supply flights to scientific bases in the frozen continent
>> during its dark winter months, officials said Friday.
>>
>> The C-17 Globemaster cargo airplane landed in a driving snowstorm on the
>> 10-kilometer (six mile) ice runway at the U.S. Antarctic research center
>> at McMurdo Station, after months of practice runs by pilots using the
>> goggles.
>>
>
> Can NVG's see through a driving snow storm?
>
> Graham
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Re: Pilot makes first NVG Antarctic landing         


Author: TacAN
Date: Sep 13, 2008 00:23

"Spartan613" pissoff.com> wrote in message
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> "TacAN" wrote in message
> news:NBHyk.36031$IK1.3018@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Ned" aioe.org> wrote in message news:gadt3s$b8p$1@aioe.org...
>>> From CNN - A U.S. Air Force pilot has landed a plane in Antarctica in
>>> the dark for the first time using night-vision goggles, a feat that
>>> could lead to more supply flights to scientific bases in the frozen
>>> continent during its dark winter months, officials said Friday.
>>>
>>> The C-17 Globemaster cargo airplane landed in a driving snowstorm on the
>>> 10-kilometer (six mile) ice runway at the U.S. Antarctic research center
>>> at McMurdo Station, after months of practice runs by pilots using the
>>> goggles.
>>>
>>
>> Can NVG's see through a driving snow storm?
>>
>> Graham ...
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Re: Pilot makes first NVG Antarctic landing         


Author: Atheist Chaplain
Date: Sep 13, 2008 03:33

"TacAN" wrote in message
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>
> "Spartan613" pissoff.com> wrote in message
> news:mOJyk.36053$IK1.7808@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> "TacAN" wrote in message
>> news:NBHyk.36031$IK1.3018@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Ned" aioe.org> wrote in message news:gadt3s$b8p$1@aioe.org...
>>>> From CNN - A U.S. Air Force pilot has landed a plane in Antarctica in
>>>> the dark for the first time using night-vision goggles, a feat that
>>>> could lead to more supply flights to scientific bases in the frozen
>>>> continent during its dark winter months, officials said Friday.
>>>>
>>>> The C-17 Globemaster cargo airplane landed in a driving snowstorm on
>>>> the 10-kilometer (six mile) ice runway at the U.S. Antarctic research
>>>> center at McMurdo Station, after months of practice runs by pilots
>>>> using the goggles.
>>>>
>>> ...
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Re: Pilot makes first NVG Antarctic landing         


Author: Ken S. Tucker
Date: Sep 13, 2008 04:08

On Sep 13, 3:33 am, "Atheist Chaplain" cia.gov> wrote:
> "TacAN" wrote in message
> news:cUJyk.36054$IK1.24433@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> "Spartan613" pissoff.com> wrote in message
>>news:mOJyk.36053$IK1.7808@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> "TacAN" wrote in message
>>>news:NBHyk.36031$IK1.3018@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>>>> "Ned" aioe.org> wrote in messagenews:gadt3s$b8p$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> From CNN - A U.S. Air Force pilot has landed a plane in Antarctica in
>>>>> the dark for the first time using night-vision goggles, a feat that
>>>>> could lead to more supply flights to scientific bases in the frozen
>>>>> continent during its dark winter months, officials said Friday.
>
>>>>> The C-17 Globemaster cargo airplane landed in a driving snowstorm on
>>>>> the 10-kilometer (six mile) ice runway at the U.S. Antarctic research
>>>>> center at McMurdo Station, after months of practice runs by pilots
>>>>> using the goggles.
>
>>>> Can NVG's see through a driving snow storm? ...
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Re: Pilot makes first NVG Antarctic landing         


Author: Ned
Date: Sep 13, 2008 05:55

Paul Saccani wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:08:28 +1000, Ned aioe.org> wrote:
>
>> Air Force Lt. Col. Jim McGann said the airplane's own lights --
>> reflecting off of traffic cones -- allowed it to land without electrical
>> runway lights that are too hard to maintain in the frozen environment.
>
> You would think that they could just use retro reflectors, rather than
> go the NVG route.

Good point - actually CNNs "traffic cones" - dumbed down to witches hats
in the minds of it's natural audience, were in fact retro reflective cones.

"Major Corey Simmons, the pilot, was ecstatic that he and his crew were
the first people in aviation history to land on the Antarctic continent
at night.

"We just did the first NVG (Night Vision) landing on Pegasus using retro
reflective cones that we have been testing for about 18 months or so,"
said Simmons."
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Re: Pilot makes first NVG Antarctic landing         


Author: Dan
Date: Sep 13, 2008 05:58

TacAN wrote:
> "Ned" aioe.org> wrote in message news:gadt3s$b8p$1@aioe.org...
>> From CNN - A U.S. Air Force pilot has landed a plane in Antarctica in the
>> dark for the first time using night-vision goggles, a feat that could lead
>> to more supply flights to scientific bases in the frozen continent during
>> its dark winter months, officials said Friday.
>>
>> The C-17 Globemaster cargo airplane landed in a driving snowstorm on the
>> 10-kilometer (six mile) ice runway at the U.S. Antarctic research center
>> at McMurdo Station, after months of practice runs by pilots using the
>> goggles.
>>
>
> Can NVG's see through a driving snow storm?
>
> Graham
>
>
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Re: Pilot makes first NVG Antarctic landing         


Author: Atheist Chaplain
Date: Sep 13, 2008 06:05

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in message
news:408150fd-ec41-48a1-94c3-2a8d7da7679a@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 13, 3:33 am, "Atheist Chaplain" cia.gov> wrote:
>> "TacAN" wrote in message
>> news:cUJyk.36054$IK1.24433@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> "Spartan613" pissoff.com> wrote in message
>>>news:mOJyk.36053$IK1.7808@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> "TacAN" wrote in message
>>>>news:NBHyk.36031$IK1.3018@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>>>>> "Ned" aioe.org> wrote in messagenews:gadt3s$b8p$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>> From CNN - A U.S. Air Force pilot has landed a plane in Antarctica
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the dark for the first time using night-vision goggles, a feat that
>>>>>> could lead to more supply flights to scientific bases in the frozen
>>>>>> continent during its dark winter months, officials said Friday.
>>
>>>>>> The C-17 Globemaster cargo airplane landed in a driving snowstorm on
>>>>>> the 10-kilometer (six mile) ice runway at the U.S. Antarctic
>>>>>> research ...
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Re: Pilot makes first NVG Antarctic landing         


Author: Atheist Chaplain
Date: Sep 15, 2008 04:26

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in message
news:daa03c8d-dc62-448c-98a5-c438016ba9a9@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 14, 6:07 am, "Atheist Chaplain" cia.gov> wrote:
>> "Ken S. Tucker" wrote in
>> messagenews:1de15925-3f7c-455e-a5ce-6f9c29659e7f@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 13, 6:05 am, "Atheist Chaplain" cia.gov> wrote:
>>>> "Ken S. Tucker" wrote in
>>>> messagenews:408150fd-ec41-48a1-94c3-2a8d7da7679a@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Sep 13, 3:33 am, "Atheist Chaplain" cia.gov> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>>> High intensity IR LED's in the landing lights would do the job
>>>>>> quite
>>>>>> well
>>>>>> without having to worry about the reflected active illumination
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> main landing lights, in conjunction with IR reflectors (as used on ...
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