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Author: veritas
Date: Dec 29, 2007 18:01

it may be an intersing browse (even if a little long) from the NY Times
about airport security screening:

http://tinyurl.com/2qjyb2

It tells us that US PAX are as pissd-off as AU PAX, in no uncertain terms.

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Re: Nothing we don't already know - but......         


Author: veritas
Date: Dec 29, 2007 20:37

Craig Welch wrote:
> veritas coldmail.com> said:
>
>> it may be an intersing browse (even if a little long) from the NY Times
>> about airport security screening:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/2qjyb2
>>
>> It tells us that US PAX are as pissd-off as AU PAX, in no uncertain terms.
>
> With good reason.
>
> Screening in the US falls under the TSA, a corrupt and inept body
> that takes the most basic procedures to nonsensical, farcical
> extremes.
>
> The article highlights one of the most stupid examples ... screening
> pilots for sharp objects ... it fails to mention that they then
> enter a cockpit in which is placed a crash axe!
> ...
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Re: Nothing we don't already know - but......         


Author: matt weber
Date: Dec 30, 2007 14:32

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 02:26:39 GMT, Craig Welch pacific.net.sg>
wrote:
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Re: Nothing we don't already know - but......         


Author: SR20GOER
Date: Dec 30, 2007 14:58

"veritas" coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:477714cc$0$25990$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> Craig Welch wrote:
>> veritas coldmail.com> said:
>>
snipped
>>> It tells us that US PAX are as pissd-off as AU PAX, in no uncertain
>>> terms.
>>
>> With good reason.
>>
snipped
>> The article highlights one of the most stupid examples ... screening
>> pilots for sharp objects ... it fails to mention that they then
>> enter a cockpit in which is placed a crash axe!
>>
>
> ....and, of course, they have the "key" to the cockpit door for which
> sharp objects are removed from PAX so that they cannot hold anyone to
> ransom to, in-turn, access the cockpit. It amazes me that people get ...
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Re: Nothing we don't already know - but......         


Author: Marts
Date: Dec 30, 2007 17:01

Craig Welch wrote...
> The article highlights one of the most stupid examples ... screening
> pilots for sharp objects ... it fails to mention that they then
> enter a cockpit in which is placed a crash axe!

ROFL.

Like they're gonna stop a jihad crazed pilot from driving his bus into something
or simply pranging it. Must be heaps of ways that he can achieve this before the
other pilot can do something to save the A/C.
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Re: Nothing we don't already know - but......         


Author: Pits
Date: Dec 30, 2007 17:22

On Dec 31, 7:58 am, "SR20GOER" aopa.com.au> wrote:
> "veritas" coldmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:477714cc$0$25990$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>
>
>
>> Craig Welch wrote:
>>> veritas coldmail.com> said:
>
> snipped
>>>> It tells us that US PAX are as pissd-off as AU PAX, in no uncertain
>>>> terms.
>
>>> With good reason.
>
> snipped
>>> The article highlights one of the most stupid examples ... screening
>>> pilots for sharp objects ... it fails to mention that they then
>>> enter a cockpit in which is placed a crash axe! ...
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Author: Pits
Date: Dec 30, 2007 17:37

On Dec 31, 10:01 am, Marts yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Craig Welch wrote...
>> The article highlights one of the most stupid examples ... screening
>> pilots for sharp objects ... it fails to mention that they then
>> enter a cockpit in which is placed a crash axe!
>
> ROFL.
>
> Like they're gonna stop a jihad crazed pilot from driving his bus into something
> or simply pranging it. Must be heaps of ways that he can achieve this before the
> other pilot can do something to save the A/C.

Marts . it is not all that funny but like you also shook heard and had
a bit of a giggle at the irony and stupidity .
On a more serious side upset pilots can and have killed people
Ranging from proven...
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Re: Nothing we don't already know - but......         


Author: veritas
Date: Dec 30, 2007 18:46

Marts wrote:
> Craig Welch wrote...
>
>> The article highlights one of the most stupid examples ... screening
>> pilots for sharp objects ... it fails to mention that they then
>> enter a cockpit in which is placed a crash axe!
>
> ROFL.
>
> Like they're gonna stop a jihad crazed pilot from driving his bus into something
> or simply pranging it. Must be heaps of ways that he can achieve this before the
> other pilot can do something to save the A/C.

Yeah - just like that Egyptian lunatic......
>

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Re: Nothing we don't already know - but......         


Author: SR20GOER
Date: Dec 30, 2007 20:12

"Pits" gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 31, 7:58 am, "SR20GOER" aopa.com.au> wrote:
>> "veritas" coldmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:477714cc$0$25990$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>>
>> My point? I have occasionally seen air crew with steam coming out of
>> their
>> ears as they get treated like idiots going through security.
>> Why bother making them get an ASIC if they are to be treated like the
>> average tourist.
>> But, most importantly, is it a good idea to have aircrew start a flight
>> agro
>> and wound up?
>> Brian
>
> You touch on a VERY important aspect that is as I type exercising some
> very good minds in Aerospace medicine and human factors analysts,here
> and overseas . ...
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Re: Nothing we don't already know - but......         


Author: DC
Date: Dec 31, 2007 08:21

> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 02:26:39 GMT, Craig Welch pacific.net.sg>
> wrote:
>> The article highlights one of the most stupid examples ... screening
>> pilots for sharp objects ... it fails to mention that they then
>> enter a cockpit in which is placed a crash axe!

Just because someone is dressed like a pilot doesn't mean that they are
a pilot. Then there's the rest of the crew*. It's far easier and safer
to screen everyone.

* I seem to recall that some South African Airlines crew are in gaol
after attempting to smuggle drugs in to Australia.
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