> More holes than a colander, despite enormous disruption to the public
> and pilots over petty risks.
>
>
> "AN investigation is underway after a NSW police officer managed to
> board a flight at Sydney airport still carrying his gun.
>
> The officer was in full uniform and was on duty when he boarded the
> flight from Sydney to the Gold Coast yesterday morning, the Australian
> Federal Police (AFP) said.
>
> The officer was detected with the gun at the Gold Coast and travelled
> back to Sydney with the weapon in the hold.
>
> A spokesman for the airport said: "Under Australian aviation security
> regulations, NSW police officers when in uniform and on duty are
> exempt from security screening." "
>
> ...

> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:56:41 +1000, Sylvia Else
> wrote:
>

>> The significant issue here is whether anyone checked that he really was
>> a police officer, or just assumed he was because he was wearing a police
>> uniform. If all you need to do to get guns onboard an aircraft is to
>> wear a facsimile of a police uniform, then the 'security' is next to
>> worthless.

>
> If you knew what noddies Police can be, you wouldn't be saying that.
>
> Police have been known to misuse their firearms for criminal purposes,
> and can and do go nuts just like anybody else.

> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:56:41 +1000, Sylvia Else
> wrote:
>

>> The significant issue here is whether anyone checked that he really was
>> a police officer, or just assumed he was because he was wearing a police
>> uniform. If all you need to do to get guns onboard an aircraft is to
>> wear a facsimile of a police uniform, then the 'security' is next to
>> worthless.

>
> If you knew what noddies Police can be, you wouldn't be saying that.
>
> Police have been known to misuse their firearms for criminal purposes,
> and can and do go nuts just like anybody else.

> Paul Saccani said the following on 3/07/2008 6:18 PM:

>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:56:41 +1000, Sylvia Else
>> wrote:
>>

>>> The significant issue here is whether anyone checked that he really was
>>> a police officer, or just assumed he was because he was wearing a police
>>> uniform. If all you need to do to get guns onboard an aircraft is to
>>> wear a facsimile of a police uniform, then the 'security' is next to
>>> worthless.

>>
>> If you knew what noddies Police can be, you wouldn't be saying that.
>>
>> Police have been known to misuse their firearms for criminal purposes,
>> and can and do go nuts just like anybody else.

>
> Paul, I thing Sylvia was more referring to whether it's a good idea to
> assume someone is a Policeman just because they look like one.
> ...

> Paul Saccani said the following on 3/07/2008 6:18 PM:

>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:56:41 +1000, Sylvia Else
>> wrote:
>>

>>> The significant issue here is whether anyone checked that he really
>>> was a police officer, or just assumed he was because he was wearing a
>>> police uniform. If all you need to do to get guns onboard an aircraft
>>> is to wear a facsimile of a police uniform, then the 'security' is
>>> next to worthless.

>>
>> If you knew what noddies Police can be, you wouldn't be saying that.
>>
>> Police have been known to misuse their firearms for criminal purposes,
>> and can and do go nuts just like anybody else.

>
> Paul, I thing Sylvia was more referring to whether it's a good idea to
> assume someone is a Policeman just because...

> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:34:12 +1000, Sylvia Else
> wrote:
>

>> Paul Saccani wrote:

>>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:56:41 +1000, Sylvia Else
>>> wrote:
>>>

>>>> The significant issue here is whether anyone checked that he really was
>>>> a police officer, or just assumed he was because he was wearing a police
>>>> uniform. If all you need to do to get guns onboard an aircraft is to
>>>> wear a facsimile of a police uniform, then the 'security' is next to
>>>> worthless.

>>> If you knew what noddies Police can be, you wouldn't be saying that.
>>>
>>> Police have been known to misuse their firearms for criminal purposes,
>>> and can and do go nuts just like anybody else.

>> Spraying bullets around in a confined space is never a good idea,

>
> Nothing to do with anything I said. The significant issue is that ...

> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:36:25 +1000, Sylvia Else
> wrote:
>

>>> But you can't see the wood for the trees. That a firearm was taken
>>> aboard an aircraft when it was prohibited is not the critical issue.
>>> That the security system does not work is the issue. If your security
>>> hole allows firearms on board, it can likely also allow explosives on
>>> board. As well as allowing the destruction of the aircraft to the
>>> determent of those on board, it can also easily facilitate entry to
>>> the cockpit to allow the use of the aircraft as a weapon or what have
>>> you.

>> That's the reason for locked doors.

>
> Try R E A D I N G what you are commenting on. Explosives can be used
> to U N L O C K locked doors. The doors are not locked to prevent
> explosives being used on the, explosives are used because the door is
> locked.
>

>> As for using the aircraft as a ...

> Sylvia Else wrote:
>

>> The significant issue here is whether anyone checked that he really
>> was a police officer, or just assumed he was because he was wearing a
>> police uniform.

>
> Or just assumed he was because he was carrying a gun ...
>

> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:56:41 +1000, Sylvia Else
> wrote:
>

>>The significant issue here is whether anyone checked that he really was
>>a police officer, or just assumed he was because he was wearing a police
>>uniform. If all you need to do to get guns onboard an aircraft is to
>>wear a facsimile of a police uniform, then the 'security' is next to
>>worthless.

>
> If you knew what noddies Police can be, you wouldn't be saying that.
>
> Police have been known to misuse their firearms for criminal purposes,
> and can and do go nuts just like anybody else.

>
> "DC" nospam.net> wrote in message
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>> Paul Saccani said the following on 3/07/2008 6:18 PM:

>>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:56:41 +1000, Sylvia Else
>>> wrote:
>>>

>>>> The significant issue here is whether anyone checked that he really was
>>>> a police officer, or just assumed he was because he was wearing a
>>>> police uniform. If all you need to do to get guns onboard an aircraft
>>>> is to wear a facsimile of a police uniform, then the 'security' is next
>>>> to worthless.

>>>
>>> If you knew what noddies Police can be, you wouldn't be saying that.
>>>
>>> Police have been known to misuse their firearms for criminal purposes,
>>> and can and do go nuts just like anybody else.

>> ...