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Group: aus.aviation · Group Profile
Author: B J Foster
Date: Sep 11, 2008 05:49

Sylvia Else wrote:
> TomTom wrote:
>
>>
>> I am absolutely shocked! Does that suggest that all that Malarkey
>> about mobiles etc in flight is just Baloney?
>>
>> Surely there is clear scientific evidence to support those claims?
>
> I don't think there is. There's just speculation and risk aversion.
> Also, it may be that when the instruments are properly screened there's
> no problem, but screening, like anything else on an aircraft, can fail.

The possibility of interference is negligible. NASA did a study of
several systems in several different aircraft and found worst case path
losses around -50dB. This is before the antenna gain (selectivity) and
receiver band-pass filtering are taken into account.

Boeing investigated reported incidents with extensive testing & could
not duplicate the claims in a laboratory:
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_10/interfere_textonly.html

Aircraft systems mostly operate in VHF and below, whereas GSM is in the
UHF band (900 Mhz and 1800 MHz). The only exception is GPS which sits at
1575 Mhz.

It's the other way around. In fact, if there *was* any interference with
flight systems then you could probably make a strong case for negligence
by the operator or manufacturer.

I have a conspiracy theory that GSM phones need to be switched off at
altitude only because up there they go nuts switching between towers. I
suspect that mobile phone use is banned for this reason.

In this context, arresting someone for endangerment to the aircraft is a
joke.

I have a feeling that the CPUs within the devices actually cause more
interference but paradoxically, pilots allow people to use PDAs in
"flight mode" (which is RF off, CPU on).
>
>>
>> Next we will be told that there is no risk in using mobile phones at
>> the local servo. We all know that you will inevitably go up in a
>> sheet of flame if you do that. It's happened to me so many times.

Actually, there is a risk. Li-Ion batteries (used in phones and laptops)
have a tendency to become unstable after 10 years and a small percentage
of them can explode.
>
> Snopes regards this as an urban myth.
>
> http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp
>
> Sylvia.
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