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Author: NedNed Date: Aug 8, 2007 05:58
GB wrote:
Hmmm...Cockpit controls obviously modified for dual pilot operation.
WW2 Lancaster operations were all AFAIK single pilot. Which is why
navigators with a just few hours up were so well regarded in case the
skipper took a hit. A few managed the heroic feat of bringing the
damaged aircraft back and putting it on the ground.
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Author: Gordon BeamanGordon Beaman Date: Aug 11, 2007 17:11
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:58:39 +1000, Ned aioe.org> wrote:
>GB wrote:
> Hmmm...Cockpit controls obviously modified for dual pilot operation.
>
>WW2 Lancaster operations were all AFAIK single pilot. Which is why
>navigators with a just few hours up were so well regarded in case the
>skipper took a hit. A few managed the heroic feat of bringing the
>damaged aircraft back and putting it on the ground.
NAVIGATORS?!?...first time I've ever heard that...have heard it said
about Flight Engineers though, never Navigators...you got a cite for
me?...
--
Gord
(use gordon in email)
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Author: RTRT Date: Aug 12, 2007 01:36
"Gordon Beaman" islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
news:4tjsb3pta9e0iqfu275cbahdiunjo7d1i1@4ax.com...> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:58:39 +1000, Ned aioe.org> wrote:
>>>GB wrote:
>> Hmmm...Cockpit controls obviously modified for dual pilot operation.
>>
>>WW2 Lancaster operations were all AFAIK single pilot. Which is why
>>navigators with a just few hours up were so well regarded in case the
>>skipper took a hit. A few managed the heroic feat of bringing the
>>damaged aircraft back and putting it on the ground. >
> NAVIGATORS?!?...first time I've ever heard that...have heard it said
> about Flight Engineers though, never Navigators...you got a cite for
> me?...
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Author: Peter and SusanPeter and Susan Date: Aug 12, 2007 03:58
>> "Gordon Beaman" islandtelecom.com> wrote in message> news:4tjsb3pta9e0iqfu275cbahdiunjo7d1i1@ 4ax.com... >> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:58:39 +1000, Ned aioe.org> wrote:
>>>>>GB wrote:
>>> Hmmm...Cockpit controls obviously modified for dual pilot operation.
>>>
>>>WW2 Lancaster operations were all AFAIK single pilot. Which is why
>>>navigators with a just few hours up were so well regarded in case the
>>>skipper took a hit. A few managed the heroic feat of bringing the
>>>damaged aircraft back and putting it on the ground. >>
>> NAVIGATORS?!?...first time I've ever heard that...have heard it said
>> about Flight Engineers though, never Navigators...you got a cite for
>> me?...
> ...
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Author: NedNed Date: Aug 12, 2007 06:35
RT wrote:
> "Gordon Beaman" islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:4tjsb3pta9e0iqfu275cbahdiunjo7d1i1@4ax.com...>> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:58:39 +1000, Ned aioe.org> wrote:
>>>>> GB wrote:
>>> Hmmm...Cockpit controls obviously modified for dual pilot operation.
>>>
>>> WW2 Lancaster operations were all AFAIK single pilot. Which is why
>>> navigators with a just few hours up were so well regarded in case the
>>> skipper took a hit. A few managed the heroic feat of bringing the
>>> damaged aircraft back and putting it on the ground. >> NAVIGATORS?!?...first time I've ever heard that...have heard it said
>> about Flight Engineers though, never Navigators...you got a cite for
>> me?...
>
> Not exactly a cite, but one of my school teachers, Brian Joseph
>Mattingley, ...
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Author: Brian ColwellBrian Colwell Date: Aug 12, 2007 17:47
"Gordon Beaman" islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
news:4tjsb3pta9e0iqfu275cbahdiunjo7d1i1@4ax.com...> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:58:39 +1000, Ned aioe.org> wrote:
>>>GB wrote:
>> Hmmm...Cockpit controls obviously modified for dual pilot operation.
>>
>>WW2 Lancaster operations were all AFAIK single pilot. Which is why
>>navigators with a just few hours up were so well regarded in case the
>>skipper took a hit. A few managed the heroic feat of bringing the
>>damaged aircraft back and putting it on the ground. >
> NAVIGATORS?!?...first time I've ever heard that...have heard it said
> about Flight Engineers though, never Navigators...you got a cite for
> me?...
>
> --
> ...
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Author: Gordon BeamanGordon Beaman Date: Aug 12, 2007 21:28
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:35:13 +1000, Ned aioe.org> wrote:
>RT wrote:
>> "Gordon Beaman" islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>> news:4tjsb3pta9e0iqfu275cbahdiunjo7d1i1@4ax.com...>>> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:58:39 +1000, Ned aioe.org> wrote:> ...
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Author: Nick O'TymeNick O'Tyme Date: Aug 12, 2007 23:18
"Gordon Beaman" islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
news:32mvb358kpa16ah7a10ojo75of66lv62o1@4ax.com...> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:35:13 +1000, Ned aioe.org> wrote:
>Snip, snip
>
> I flew for another 20 years on various large a/c after them and
> believe me the Lancaster was indeed a damned dangerous a/c to fly.
>
> They had very little aileron authority although the elevator and
> rudders were pretty good, also the combination of large soft tires,
> quite long travel and spongy oleo legs placed much too far forward,
> plus that huge high lift wing made every landing an event to dread.
>
> --
>
> Gord
> (use gordon in email)
Hi Gordon,
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Author: CoopCoop Date: Aug 13, 2007 02:23
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:35:13 +1000, Ned aioe.org> wrote:
(Lots of good stuff snipped for brevity)>
>All other crew members also deservedly got gongs.
>
>McGillivray's prior experience was link trainer only.
>
I remember reading of a real "seat of the pants" exercise in a
Lancaster, where one of the crew (I don't think it was the pilot) kept
the aircraft flying by sitting on the control wheel and pushing
against the opposite bulkhead/seat/whatever with his feet. With the
assistance of another crew member they kept it going like this for
quite a long time. Can't remember if they made it back home or dropped
into one of the occupied countries, but it was a remarkable feat, with
a successful forced landing at the end of it.
Coop
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