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Author: NedNed Date: May 25, 2008 20:01
* Mon, 26 May 2008 | The Australian Financial Review | Damon
Kitney and Mark Skulley
* Qantas Airways' low-cost offshoot, Jetstar, will use foreign
pilots employed on section 457 work visas to fly some of its domestic
and international routes, in the first large-scale hiring of
international flight crew in Australia since the pilots' strike almost
20 years ago.
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Author: Chris DChris D Date: May 25, 2008 20:55
"Ned" pizzacheeze.com> wrote in message
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> * Mon, 26 May 2008 | The Australian Financial Review | Damon
> Kitney and Mark Skulley
>
> * Qantas Airways' low-cost offshoot, Jetstar, will use foreign
> pilots employed on section 457 work visas to fly some of its domestic
> and international routes, in the first large-scale hiring of
> international flight crew in Australia since the pilots' strike almost
> 20 years ago.
>
Hi Ned,
Was that 457 foreign pilots or foreign pilots under section 457 work visas?
The major trucking companies like Toll's have been trying to do the same
thing with heavy long haul road vehicles drivers too. Imagine the increased
dangers on Australian road users with of hundreds of drug affected and sleep
deprived Asian truck drivers running on our highways?
Chris
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Author: hstammhstamm Date: May 25, 2008 21:23
On Mon, 26 May 2008 13:55:40 +1000, "Chris D" nomail.com.au>
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>> * Mon, 26 May 2008 | The Australian Financial Review | Damon
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Author: Chris DChris D Date: May 25, 2008 21:46
"hstamm" optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:kjek34t3o03e4ptrdu12tldjtuik40r5bu@4ax.com...> On Mon, 26 May 2008 13:55:40 +1000, "Chris D" nomail.com.au>
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>>"Ned" pizzacheeze.com> wrote in message
>>news:vp9k341d49v0oc7gltq1i4itnubjbeisfn@4ax.com...>>>
>>> * Mon, 26 May 2008 | The Australian Financial Review | Damon
>>> Kitney and Mark Skulley
>>>
>>> * Qantas Airways' low-cost offshoot, Jetstar, will use foreign
>>> pilots employed on section 457 work visas to fly some of its domestic
>>> and international routes, in the first large-scale hiring of
>>> international flight crew in Australia since the pilots' strike almost
>>> 20 years ago.
>>
>>Hi Ned,
>>
>>Was that 457 foreign pilots or foreign pilots under section 457 work ...
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Author: YaguYagu Date: May 25, 2008 22:49
Chris,
On what evidence do you make the statements below in relation to drug
affected and sleep deprived Asian drivers?
Can you please furnish some credible quotes and sources?
Yagu
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> "Ned" pizzacheeze.com> wrote in message
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Author: RTRT Date: May 26, 2008 00:21
> Chris D wrote:
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>> The major trucking companies like Toll's have been trying to do the same
>> thing with heavy long haul road vehicles drivers too. Imagine the
>> increased dangers on Australian road users with of hundreds of drug
>> affected and sleep deprived Asian truck drivers running on our highways?
>
> Why is that worse than thousands of drug affected and sleep deprived
> Australian truck drivers?
Ah, but they're ASIANS you see.
It's irrelevant that they probably have a far more rigorous work ethic than
the locals............
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Date: May 26, 2008 00:58
On Mon, 26 May 2008 06:40:29 GMT, Craig Welch pacific.net.sg>
wrote:
>Chris D wrote:
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>> The major trucking companies like Toll's have been trying to do the same
>> thing with heavy long haul road vehicles drivers too. Imagine the increased
>> dangers on Australian road users with of hundreds of drug affected and sleep
>> deprived Asian truck drivers running on our highways?
>
>Why is that worse than thousands of drug affected and sleep deprived
>Australian truck drivers?
Dependent on their country of origin.
The tendency to drive on the incorrect side of the road during lapses
of concentration and or long periods without sleep, one reason that
immediately springs to mind.
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Author: Chris DChris D Date: May 26, 2008 08:06
> Chris,
>
> On what evidence do you make the statements below in relation to drug
> affected and sleep deprived Asian drivers?
> Can you please furnish some credible quotes and sources?
Clearly you didn't read my email posted about one hour prior the your
comment, when I said,
"No, I did not intend to imply that current Australian drivers are not drug
takers. My point was that it's bad enough that many of the current
Australian ones are far to often are found to drug affected and sleep
deprived after an accident. Added to the fact that many are forced to adhere
to unrealistic driving schedules or risk losing there next hauling job. Just
imagine how much worse it would be with people who have never lived or
worked hear before, have little understanding of our laws, their rights, our
language (remember the recent tourist bus crash investigation in the
Illawarra)."
Chris
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Author: Chris DChris D Date: May 26, 2008 08:07
> Chris D wrote:
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>> The major trucking companies like Toll's have been trying to do the same
>> thing with heavy long haul road vehicles drivers too. Imagine the
>> increased dangers on Australian road users with of hundreds of drug
>> affected and sleep deprived Asian truck drivers running on our highways?
>
> Why is that worse than thousands of drug affected and sleep deprived
> Australian truck drivers?
Clearly you didn't read my email posted about two hours prior the your
comment, when I said,
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Author: SR20GOERSR20GOER Date: May 26, 2008 15:06
"Paul Saccani" omen.net.au> wrote in message
news:28bl349774c67m71nkvk2p3iea4t6h9a0i@4ax.com...> On Mon, 26 May 2008 13:55:40 +1000, "Chris D" nomail.com.au>
> wrote:
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>>>The major trucking companies like Toll's have been trying to do the same
>>thing with heavy long haul road vehicles drivers too. Imagine the
>>increased
>>dangers on Australian road users with of hundreds of drug affected and
>>sleep
>>deprived Asian truck drivers running on our highways?
>
> It's a pretty interesting proposition, given the rarity of
> multi-combination vehicles outside of Australia. How can you have the
> skills prior to entering Australia?
Paul
Well put.
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