> "terry" iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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> news:180ca348-9091-442f-b406-f0db50dba428@q78g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 28, 11:34 pm, Coop chariotnose.netwheel.au> wrote:
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>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 03:40:10 -0800 (PST), terry

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>> iprimus.com.au> wrote:

>>>On Feb 28, 10:03 pm, Coop chariotnose.netwheel.au> wrote:

>>>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:00:46 -0800 (PST), terry

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>>>> iprimus.com.au> wrote:

>>>>>Got crucified over on rec.aviation.student when I said my steep turn
>>>>>training was only to 45 degree bank angle. Apparently that is not
>>>>>considered steep at all in the US and we should be trained to do 60
>>>>>degree bank turns. Whats the experience of others trained over here?

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>>>>>And sideslipping was another area that has been pointed out to me as
>>>>>deficient in my training. Whilst I was taught what they are and why
>>>>>they were used ( to lose altitude in a hurry) and had one
>>>>>demonstrated to me ,but was strongly advised against using them.
>>>>>Concern was around possibility of losing fuel flow when tanks were
>>>>>low.
>>>>>( that was in a Warrior) Using a slip to correct for being too high
>>>>>was considered poor form, and that going around was the correct thing
>>>>>to do. Again I would be interested in what training others had at PPL
>>>>>level in Australia, particularly more recent students. Did I get
>>>>>dudded?
>>>>>Terry

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>>>> I was taught to do 60 degree steep turns. Many lighties need power
>>>> above cruise to sustain such for any length of time.

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>>>> Exposing fuel inlets is a problem to be considered- read each
>>>> aircraft's manual before playing with sideslips, and if it doesn't
>>>> mention it, then consider it in the light of what you know about the
>>>> fuel system. If in doubt, don't use that aircraft to practice in,
>>>> especially when close to the ground.

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>>>> DO practice them though- they are a very useful ace up your sleeve in
>>>> case you have to do a real forced landing one day. Most of us get too
>>>> close to the paddock when the pressure is really on, and being able to
>>>> hold a steady sideslip during a series of S-turns will lose you a lot
>>>> of height quickly. If you unport the fuel inlets under those
>>>> circumstances, then who cares? The engine isn't working anyway....

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>>>Will do Coop, doing them with S turns sounds doubly tricky.
>>>Terry

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>> Practice at a safe height and find out what your ASI does when you
>> enter a side slip and as you leave it. Stalling while doing one can
>> get pretty exciting, and coming out of one with lots of excess speed
>> sort of loses the point.....

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> Coop , I did actually do my one and only slip ( at altitude) a couple
> of weeks back , with an instructor on my first biannual review ( at my
> request)  I was doing a flapless circuit and was way too high.  Did
> the slip and certainly got the altitude loss but came out way too fast
> and ended up just going around.    I will practise them with an
> instructor ( yeah yeah,more crap from RT coming)  .
> Terry
>
> Ignore him Terry.  Like a little dog - much yap but no real threat.
> Fortunately there are still a few on the group who are knowledgeable and
> helpful ... and don't feel the need to be constantly in personal attack mode
> over trivial issues.
>
> Let us know how you fare at your next practice.  Have a nice day!