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Re: How steep is a steep turn?         

Group: aus.aviation · Group Profile
Author: terry
Date: Feb 28, 2008 10:58

On Feb 28, 11:34 pm, Coop chariotnose.netwheel.au> wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 03:40:10 -0800 (PST), terry
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> iprimus.com.au> wrote:
>>On Feb 28, 10:03 pm, Coop chariotnose.netwheel.au> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:00:46 -0800 (PST), terry
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>>> iprimus.com.au> wrote:
>>>>Got crucified over on rec.aviation.student when I said my steep turn
>>>>training was only to 45 degree bank angle.   Apparently that is not
>>>>considered steep at all in the US and we should be trained to do  60
>>>>degree bank turns.  Whats the experience of others trained over here?
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>>>>And sideslipping was another area that has been pointed out to me as
>>>>deficient in my training. Whilst I was taught what they are  and why
>>>>they were used ( to lose altitude in  a hurry) and had one
>>>>demonstrated to me ,but was strongly advised against using them.
>>>>Concern was around possibility of losing fuel flow when tanks were low.
>>>>( that was in a Warrior)  Using a slip to correct for being too high
>>>>was considered poor form, and that going around was the correct thing
>>>>to do.  Again I would be interested in what training others had at PPL
>>>>level in Australia, particularly more recent students.  Did I get
>>>>dudded?
>>>>Terry
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>>>  I was taught to do 60 degree steep turns. Many lighties need power
>>> above cruise to sustain such for any length of time.
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>>> Exposing fuel inlets is a problem to be considered- read each
>>> aircraft's manual before playing with sideslips, and if it doesn't
>>> mention it, then consider it in the light of what you know about the
>>> fuel system. If in doubt, don't use that aircraft to practice in,
>>> especially when close to the ground.
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>>> DO practice them though- they are a very useful ace up your sleeve in
>>> case you have to do a real forced landing one day. Most of us get too
>>> close to the paddock when the pressure is really on, and being able to
>>> hold a steady sideslip during a series of S-turns will lose you a lot
>>> of height quickly. If you unport the fuel inlets under those
>>> circumstances, then who cares? The engine isn't working anyway....
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>>Will do Coop,  doing them with S turns sounds doubly tricky.
>>Terry
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> Practice at a safe height and find out what your ASI does when you
> enter a side slip and as you leave it. Stalling while doing one can
> get pretty exciting, and coming out of one with lots of excess speed
> sort of loses the point.....
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Coop , I did actually do my one and only slip ( at altitude) a couple
of weeks back , with an instructor on my first biannual review ( at my
request) I was doing a flapless circuit and was way too high. Did
the slip and certainly got the altitude loss but came out way too fast
and ended up just going around. I will practise them with an
instructor ( yeah yeah,more crap from RT coming) .
Terry
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