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How steep is a steep turn?         


Author: terry
Date: Feb 27, 2008 04:00

Got crucified over on rec.aviation.student when I said my steep turn
training was only to 45 degree bank angle. Apparently that is not
considered steep at all in the US and we should be trained to do 60
degree bank turns. Whats the experience of others trained over here?

And sideslipping was another area that has been pointed out to me as
deficient in my training. Whilst I was taught what they are and why
they were used ( to lose altitude in a hurry) and had one
demonstrated to me ,but was strongly advised against using them.
Concern was around possibility of losing fuel flow when tanks were low.
( that was in a Warrior) Using a slip to correct for being too high
was considered poor form, and that going around was the correct thing
to do. Again I would be interested in what training others had at PPL
level in Australia, particularly more recent students. Did I get
dudded?
Terry
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Re: How steep is a steep turn?         


Author: RT
Date: Feb 27, 2008 04:32

"terry" iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:16366622-0372-458f-bd4d-d9664eaf2831@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> Got crucified over on rec.aviation.student when I said my steep turn
> training was only to 45 degree bank angle. Apparently that is not
> considered steep at all in the US and we should be trained to do 60
> degree bank turns. Whats the experience of others trained over here?

You were dudded
> And sideslipping was another area that has been pointed out to me as
> deficient in my training. Whilst I was taught what they are and why
> they were used ( to lose altitude in a hurry) and had one
> demonstrated to me ,but was strongly advised against using them.
> Concern was around possibility of losing fuel flow when tanks were low.
> ( that was in a Warrior) Using a slip to correct for being too high
> was considered poor form, and that going around was the correct thing
> to do. Again I would be interested in what training others had at PPL
> level in Australia, particularly more recent students. Did I get
> dudded?

You got dudded.

But not just that - how the hell were you taught to do x-wind landings?
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Re: How steep is a steep turn?         


Author: terry
Date: Feb 27, 2008 04:42

On Feb 27, 11:32 pm, "RT" nowhere.com.au> wrote:
> "terry" iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
>
> news:16366622-0372-458f-bd4d-d9664eaf2831@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Got crucified over on rec.aviation.student when I said my steep turn
>> training was only to 45 degree bank angle.   Apparently that is not
>> considered steep at all in the US and we should be trained to do  60
>> degree bank turns.  Whats the experience of others trained over here?
>
> You were dudded
>
>> And sideslipping was another area that has been pointed out to me as
>> deficient in my training. Whilst I was taught what they are  and why
>> they were used ( to lose altitude in  a hurry) and had one
>> demonstrated to me ,but was strongly advised against using them.
>> Concern was around possibility of losing fuel flow when tanks were low.
>> ( that was in a Warrior)  Using a slip to correct for being too high
>> was considered poor form, and that going around was the correct thing
>> to do.  Again I would be interested in what training others had at PPL ...
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Re: How steep is a steep turn?         


Author: Stealth Pilot
Date: Feb 27, 2008 04:58

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:00:46 -0800 (PST), terry
iprimus.com.au> wrote:
>Got crucified over on rec.aviation.student when I said my steep turn
>training was only to 45 degree bank angle. Apparently that is not
>considered steep at all in the US and we should be trained to...
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Re: How steep is a steep turn?         


Author: Nick O'Tyme
Date: Feb 27, 2008 05:02

"terry" iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:16366622-0372-458f-bd4d-d9664eaf2831@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> Got crucified over on rec.aviation.student when I said my steep turn
> training was only to 45 degree bank angle. Apparently that is not
> considered steep at all in the US and we should be trained to do 60
> degree bank turns. Whats the experience of others trained over here?
>
> And sideslipping was another area that has been pointed out to me as
> deficient in my training. Whilst I was taught what they are and why
> they were used ( to lose altitude in a hurry) and had one
> demonstrated to me ,but was strongly advised against using them.
> Concern was around possibility of losing fuel flow when tanks were low.
> ( that was in a Warrior) Using a slip to correct for being too high
> was considered poor form, and that going around was the correct thing
> to do. Again I would be interested in what training others had at PPL
> level in Australia, particularly more recent students. Did I get
> dudded?
> Terry
>
Bloody long time ago since I did my training but I'm pretty sure steep turns ...
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Re: How steep is a steep turn?         


Author: terry
Date: Feb 27, 2008 05:07

On Feb 27, 11:58 pm, Stealth Pilot aeroplanes.com.au>
wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:00:46 -0800 (PST), terry
>
>
>
>
>
> iprimus.com.au> wrote:
>>Got crucified over on rec.aviation.student when I said my steep turn
>>training was only to 45 degree bank angle.   Apparently that is not
>>considered steep at all in the US and we should be trained to do  60
>>degree bank turns.  Whats the experience of others trained over here?
>
>>And sideslipping was another area that has been pointed out to me as
>>deficient in my training. Whilst I was taught what they are  and why
>>they were used ( to lose altitude in  a hurry) and had one
>>demonstrated to me ,but was strongly advised against using them.
>>Concern was around possibility of losing fuel flow when tanks were low.
>>( that was in a Warrior)  Using a slip to correct for being too high ...
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Re: How steep is a steep turn?         


Author: terry
Date: Feb 27, 2008 05:14

On Feb 28, 12:02 am, "Nick O'Tyme" msn.com> wrote:
> "terry" iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
>
> news:16366622-0372-458f-bd4d-d9664eaf2831@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>> Got crucified over on rec.aviation.student when I said my steep turn
>> training was only to 45 degree bank angle.   Apparently that is not
>> considered steep at all in the US and we should be trained to do  60
>> degree bank turns.  Whats the experience of others trained over here?
>
>> And sideslipping was another area that has been pointed out to me as
>> deficient in my training. Whilst I was taught what they are  and why
>> they were used ( to lose altitude in  a hurry) and had one
>> demonstrated to me ,but was strongly advised against using them.
>> Concern was around possibility of losing fuel flow when tanks were low.
>> ( that was in a Warrior)  Using a slip to correct for being too high
>> was considered poor form, and that going around was the correct thing
>> to do.  Again I would be interested in what training others had at PPL ...
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Re: How steep is a steep turn?         


Author: JD
Date: Feb 27, 2008 11:53

terry wrote:
> On Feb 27, 11:58 pm, Stealth Pilot aeroplanes.com.au>
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:00:46 -0800 (PST), terry
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> iprimus.com.au> wrote:
>>>Got crucified over...
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Re: How steep is a steep turn?         


Author: SR20GOER
Date: Feb 27, 2008 12:43

"terry" iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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On Feb 28, 12:02 am, "Nick O'Tyme" msn.com> wrote:
> "terry" iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
>
> news:16366622-0372-458f-bd4d-d9664eaf2831@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>> Got crucified over on rec.aviation.student when I said my steep turn
>> training was only to 45 degree bank angle. Apparently that is not
>> considered steep at all in the US and we should be trained to do 60
>> degree bank turns. Whats the experience of others trained over here?
>
>> And sideslipping was another area that has been pointed out to me as
>> deficient in my training. Whilst I was taught what they are and why
>> they were used ( to lose altitude in a hurry) and had one
>> demonstrated to me ,but was strongly advised against using them.
>> Concern was around possibility of losing fuel flow when tanks were low.
>> ( that was in a Warrior) Using a slip to correct for being too high ...
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Re: How steep is a steep turn?         


Author: Don Harvie
Date: Feb 27, 2008 14:15

terry wrote:
> Got crucified over on rec.aviation.student when I said my steep turn
> training was only to 45 degree bank angle. Apparently that is not
> considered steep at all in the US and we should be trained to do 60
> degree bank turns. Whats the experience of others trained over here?

60 degree bank & roll out of the turn on the same heading as I entered
and do the same to the other side. I found it difficult maintaining
height. (I think I was given a lot of leeway in my test).
>...
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