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French Para Accidentally Fires Live Rounds         


Author: Ned
Date: Jun 29, 2008 20:29

Fifteen civilians, including five children, and two soldiers were
accidentally shot on Sunday during a hostage liberation exercise by
members of the 3rd Regiment de parachutistes d'infanterie de marine.

"The minister said security measures were respected and that the
soldier who fired the live rounds had an exemplary record.

"Security regulations were respected a priori ... use of blanks
requires a distance of at least 10 metres (31 feet) from the public
and the public was more than 10 metres away," said Morin.

"According to initial findings of the inquiry, the incident involved a
soldier with a perfect record, who had participated in operations and
had seven to eight years of experience. There is nothing that would
make one think he had behavioral or psychological problems," he
added."

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Re: French Para Accidentally Fires Live Rounds         


Author: Atheist Chaplain
Date: Jun 29, 2008 20:49

"Ned" pizzacheeze.com> wrote in message
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> Fifteen civilians, including five children, and two soldiers were
> accidentally shot on Sunday during a hostage liberation exercise by
> members of the 3rd Regiment de parachutistes d'infanterie de marine.
>
> "The minister said security measures were respected and that the
> soldier who fired the live rounds had an exemplary record.
>
> "Security regulations were respected a priori ... use of blanks
> requires a distance of at least 10 metres (31 feet) from the public
> and the public was more than 10 metres away," said Morin.
>
> "According to initial findings of the inquiry, the incident involved a
> soldier with a perfect record, who had participated in operations and
> had seven to eight years of experience. There is nothing that would
> make one think he had behavioral or psychological problems," he
> added."
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6s93qk ...
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Re: French Para Accidentally Fires Live Rounds         


Author: Ned
Date: Jun 29, 2008 21:44

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:49:44 +1000, "Atheist Chaplain"
cia.gov> wrote:
>"Ned" pizzacheeze.com> wrote in message
>news:9pkg641suv21m3mf01j252lenkvvlqrht4@4ax.com...
>> Fifteen civilians, including five children, and two soldiers were
>> accidentally shot on...
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Re: French Para Accidentally Fires Live Rounds         


Author: Atheist Chaplain
Date: Jun 29, 2008 22:28

"Ned" pizzacheeze.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:49:44 +1000, "Atheist Chaplain"
> cia.gov> wrote:
>
>>"Ned" pizzacheeze.com> wrote in message
>>news:9pkg641suv21m3mf01j252lenkvvlqrht4@4ax.com...
>>> Fifteen civilians, including five children, and two soldiers were
>>> accidentally shot on Sunday during a hostage liberation exercise by
>>> members of the 3rd Regiment de parachutistes d'infanterie de marine.
>>>
>>> "The minister said security measures were respected and that the
>>> soldier who fired the live rounds had an exemplary record.
>>>
>>> "Security regulations were respected a priori ... use of blanks
>>> requires a distance of at least 10 metres (31 feet) from the public
>>> and the public was more than 10 metres away," said Morin.
>>>
>>> "According to initial findings of the inquiry, the incident involved a
>>> soldier with a perfect record, who had participated in operations and ...
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Re: French Para Accidentally Fires Live Rounds         


Date: Jun 29, 2008 22:42

"Atheist Chaplain" cia.gov> wrote in message
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>yup, but you would also think that an experienced Sergeant would also
>notice
>the difference in weight between a mag with live and blank ammo!!
>And even in the few years I spent in the Australian Army, they made me
>realise the difference.
>The mind boggles at what could have cause such a FUBAR.
>There should have been a weapons inspection before they ever left the
>staging area, and if there was, whoever was in charge should be up for
>criminal neglect at least.
>--
>"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
>Don Hirschberg

Not to mention, whatever happened to his blank firing adaptor after the
first round...

--

Cheers

Dave Kearton
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Re: French Para Accidentally Fires Live Rounds         


Author: Brad
Date: Jun 29, 2008 23:13

On Jun 30, 1:29 pm, Ned pizzacheeze.com> wrote:
> Fifteen civilians, including five children, and two soldiers were
> accidentally shot on Sunday during a hostage liberation exercise by
> members of the 3rd Regiment de parachutistes d'infanterie de marine.

So that's 17 people shot. Slow learner? didn't he notice something
amiss after shooting the first three or four people?
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Re: French Para Accidentally Fires Live Rounds         


Author: RT
Date: Jun 29, 2008 23:43

"Sam" hihat.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:28:02 +1000, Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>
>>
>>yup, but you would also think that an experienced Sergeant would also
>>notice
>>the difference in weight between a mag with live and blank ammo!!
>>And even in the few years I spent in the Australian Army, they made me
>>realise the difference.
>>The mind boggles at what could have cause such a FUBAR.
>>There should have been a weapons inspection before they ever left the
>>staging area, and if there was, whoever was in charge should be up for
>>criminal neglect at least.
>
> Not 100%% sure about most of that. In any scenario involving dangerous
> weapons and/or activities, if something can go wrong then it will. All
> you can do is reduce the risk of catastrophic outcomes, but you can't
> eliminate it entirely. If you could (and I repeat, you can't) it would
> no longer be a risky activity, and rehearsals like this one would be ...
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Re: French Para Accidentally Fires Live Rounds         


Author: Pits
Date: Jun 29, 2008 23:49

On Jun 30, 1:42 pm, "Dave Kearton" ozemail.com.au>
wrote:
> "Atheist Chaplain" cia.gov> wrote in message
>
> news:g49r5o$9cl$1@aioe.org
>
>>yup, but you would also think that an experienced Sergeant would also
>>notice
>>the difference in weight between a mag with live and blank ammo!!
>>And even in the few years I spent in the Australian Army, they made me
>>realise the difference.
>>The mind boggles at what could have cause such a FUBAR.
>>There should have been a weapons inspection before they ever left the
>>staging area, and if there was, whoever was in charge should be up for
>>criminal neglect at least.
>>--
>>"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
>>Don Hirschberg
>
> Not to mention, whatever happened to his blank firing adaptor after the ...
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Re: French Para Accidentally Fires Live Rounds         


Author: Atheist Chaplain
Date: Jun 29, 2008 23:57

"Sam" hihat.com> wrote in message
news:1fsg64lbia2vgpa3574tptb1epp8h9k8q0@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:28:02 +1000, Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>
>>
>>yup, but you would also think that an experienced Sergeant would also
>>notice
>>the difference in weight between a mag with live and blank ammo!!
>>And even in the few years I spent in the Australian Army, they made me
>>realise the difference.
>>The mind boggles at what could have cause such a FUBAR.
>>There should have been a weapons inspection before they ever left the
>>staging area, and if there was, whoever was in charge should be up for
>>criminal neglect at least.
>
> Not 100%% sure about most of that. In any scenario involving dangerous
> weapons and/or activities, if something can go wrong then it will. All
> you can do is reduce the risk of catastrophic outcomes, but you can't
> eliminate it entirely. If you could (and I repeat, you can't) it would
> no longer be a risky activity, and rehearsals like this one would be ...
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Re: French Para Accidentally Fires Live Rounds         


Author: Atheist Chaplain
Date: Jun 29, 2008 23:57

"RT" nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Sam" hihat.com> wrote in message
> news:1fsg64lbia2vgpa3574tptb1epp8h9k8q0@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:28:02 +1000, Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>yup, but you would also think that an experienced Sergeant would also
>>>notice
>>>the difference in weight between a mag with live and blank ammo!!
>>>And even in the few years I spent in the Australian Army, they made me
>>>realise the difference.
>>>The mind boggles at what could have cause such a FUBAR.
>>>There should have been a weapons inspection before they ever left the
>>>staging area, and if there was, whoever was in charge should be up for
>>>criminal neglect at least.
>>
>> Not 100%% sure about most of that. In any scenario involving dangerous
>> weapons and/or activities, if something can go wrong then it will. All ...
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