>>
>> Tex wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Tex wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>I will give you an example of one fact which directly contradicts
>>>>>>an
>>>>>> aspect of the official story.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rumsfeld/Bush/Rice said on television (we have the footage) in the
>>>>>> aftermath of 9/11 that no-one in this administration or previous
>>>>>> administartions could have imagined that people would hijack
>>>>>> planes
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> use them as missiles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Source?
>SO HERE IS THE FIRST SOURCE CITATIONS SHOWING THAT THERE WERE NUMEROUS
>INTERNATIONAL INTELLIGENCE WARNINGS PROVIDED TO THE US GOVERNMENT OF
>PENDING ATTACKS USING PLANES AS FLYING BOMBS:
What the fuck does this have to do with your kook 9/11 theories? None of
those 'warnings' prove that dubya/cheney 'knew' 9/11 was going to happen, so
stop talking out of your arse.
Even if they did, your theory is that arab hijackers had nothing to do with
9/11. make up your mind, dingbat.
>What prompted the Pentagon and the NRO to hold such simulations?
Being prepared for disasters. How does this sprove your kook theories?
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>NOW I PROVIDE YOU WITH NUMEROUS SOURCE CITATIONS OF RUMMY/CONDI/BUSH
>DENYING FOREKNOWLEDGE ABOUT PENDING ATTACKS
Quite rightly, you have not proved otherwise. You rave a lot Jake, but you
can never seem to find specific evidence of anything.
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NOW I WILL SHOW YOU THE SOURCES AND CITATIONS OF THE ISRAELI SPIES
BEING ARRESTED - THE DANCING ISRAELIS
>September 4, 2001: Israeli Company Moves Out of WTC
How is this evidence of Israeli spies?
Lots of companies moved in & out of the WTC. It was a massive commercial
rental building, you wanker
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>(6:00 a.m.) September 11, 2001: Two Hours Before Attacks, Israeli
>Company Employees Receive Warnings
Complete kook bullshit with no supporting evidence.
>Odigo's logo.Odigo's logo. [Source: Odigo]Two employees of Odigo,
>Inc., an Israeli company, receive warnings of an imminent attack in New
>York City about two hours before the first plane hits the WTC. Odigo,
>one of the world's largest instant messaging companies, has its
>headquarters two blocks from the WTC. The Odigo Research and
>Development offices where the warnings were received are located in
>Herzliyya, a suburb of Tel Aviv.
So, workers in *Israel* get a warning about a terrorist attack *not*
mentioning the WTC. Wow!
Tell me Jake, what exactly does this prove?
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>September 11, 2001: Five Israelis Arrested for Puzzling Behavior near
>WTC
All let go, with zero evidence they were involved with the mossad.
Going great so far Jake!
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>September 14, 2001: Head of Shadowy Company Flees US
>Dominick Suter, owner of the company Urban Moving Systems, flees the
>country to Israel. The FBI later tells ABC News, "Urban Moving may
>have been providing cover for an Israeli intelligence operation."
>Suter has been tied to the five Israeli agents caught filming the WTC
>attack.
What "five israeli agents"?
Let suppose he was a spy, what does this have to do with the WTC attack?
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>September 29-30, 2001: Suspected Mossad Agents Detained, Released
>Police in the Midwest stop six men carrying suspicious documents. They
>possess photos and descriptions of a nuclear power plant in Florida and
>the Trans-Alaska pipeline, and have "box cutters and other
>equipment."
What does this have to do with 9/11?
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>October 10, 2001: Two Israelis Are Detained in Mexican Legislature
>Building after Behaving Suspiciously and Found To Be Carrying Arms
Fascinating. What does this have to do with 9/11?
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>October 16, 2001: Several Arrested for Curious Sears Tower Surveillance
>Two men, Moshe Elmakias and Ron Katar, are arrested after being found
>with a detailed video of the Sears Tower in Chicago.
What does this have t do with 9/11?
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>November 20, 2001: Israelis Who Videotaped WTC Attack Are Released,
>Deported
>The five Israelis arrested on 9/11 for videotaping the WTC attack and
>then cheering about it (see September 11, 2001) are released and
>deported to Israel. Some of the men's names had appeared in a US
>national intelligence database, and the FBI has concluded that at least
>two of the men were working for the Mossad, according to ABC News.
>However, the FBI says that none of the Israelis had any advanced
>knowledge of the 9/11 attacks, and they were released as part of a deal
>between the US and the Israeli government. After their release, they
>claim to have been tortured. [Forward, 3/15/2002; ABC News, 6/21/2002]
So, no foreknowledge of 9/11, and still no proof they were mossad
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>November 23, 2001: More Israelis Arrested in Wake of 9/11
>The Washington Post reports that "[a]t least 60 young Israeli Jews
>have been arrested and detained around the country on immigration
>charges since the September 11 attacks, many of them held on US
>government officials' invocation of national security."
Non-Israeli foreigners were nabbed too.
Again, fuck-all evidence of anything
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>December 12-15, 2001: News Reports Raises Israeli Spying Questions
>Two stills from Carl Cameron's Fox News report on potential Israeli
>spying in the US.Two stills from Carl Cameron's Fox News report on
>potential Israeli spying in the US. [Source: Fox News] (click image to
>enlarge)Fox News reports, "Investigators within the DEA, INS, and FBI
>have all told Fox News that to pursue or even suggest Israeli spying
>... is considered career suicide." "A highly placed investigator
>says there are 'tie-ins' between the spy ring and 9/11. However,
>when asked for details, he flatly refuses to describe them, saying,
>'evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell
>you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified
>information.'"
LOL. Let's see, the US government is in cahoots with an Israeli attack on
9/11, but allows it's own investigators to look at materials which would
supposedly incriminate them.
Brilliant logic Jake.
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>December 16, 2001: Fox News Removes Controversial Story from Website,
>but Story Nonetheless Makes an Impact
>Fox News removes its series on the "art student spy ring" from its
>website after only two days, in response to pressure from The Jewish
>Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), the Anti-Defamation
>League (ADL), the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in
>America (CAMERA) and others.
What does this have to do with 9/11?
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>March 5, 2002: Israeli Spies Reportedly Tracked 9/11 Hijackers
LOL. So Israeli spies tracked the hijackers who you say didn't exist. Were
Israeli spies tracking other israeli spies?
I love when your kook conspiracy theories contradict your other kook
theories
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>March 6, 2002: US Officials Deny and Media Downplay Existence of
>Israeli Spy Ring
What does this have to do with 9/11?
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>March 11, 2002: Suspected Israeli Students Reportedly Served in
>Military
What does this have to do with 9/11?
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>March 15, 2002: Jewish Magazine Says Israelis Spied in US on Radical
>Muslims
What does this have to do with 9/11?
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>May 7, 2002: Explosives Detected on Illegal Israelis
>A Fox News report on the Oak Harbor truck incident.A Fox News report on
>the Oak Harbor truck incident. [Source: Fox News]A moving truck is
>pulled over for speeding in the middle of the night in Oak Harbor,
>Washington, near the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station. The base is the
>home of the advanced electronic warfare Prowler jets. A bomb-sniffing
>dog detects explosives on one of the men and inside the truck.
>High-tech equipment is then used to confirm the presence of TNT on the
>gearshift and RDX plastic explosive on the steering wheel. Both men
>turn out to be Israeli (one with an altered passport) and in the
>country illegally. [Fox News, 5/13/2002] However, the FBI later clears
>the two men, saying both the dog and the tests just detected false
>positives from "residue left by a cigarette lighter."
So, fuck all to do with 9/11.
Another piece of non-evidence from Jake.
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>May 7, 2002: Sloppy Israeli Spy Ring Could Have Been Smoke Screen
>Salon reports on the Israeli "art student spy ring." All the
>"students" claim to have come from either Bezalel Academy or the
>University of Jerusalem. A look in the Bezalel database shows that not
>a single "art student" appears to have attended school there. There
>is no such thing as the University of Jerusalem. In fact, the article
>points out that the sheer sloppiness and brazenness of the spy
>operation appears to be a great mystery, especially since the Mossad is
>renowned as one of the best spy agencies in the world. One government
>source suggests a theory to Salon that the "art students" were
>actually a smoke screen. They were meant to be caught and connected to
>DEA surveillance so that a smaller number of spies also posing as art
>students could complete other missions. One such mission could have
>been the monitoring of al-Qaeda operatives.
LOL. Monitoring the non-existent al-Qaeda operatives were they?
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>November 2002: Saudi Interior Minister Blames Jews for 9/11 Attacks
LOL. In other amazing news, Adolf Hitler says he doesn't like Jews
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>May 2004: More Israelis Are Arrested in Suspicious Circumstances, Again
>Traveling in Moving Vans
So, nothing to do with 9/11 whatsoever.
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>September 16, 2004: Israelis Arrested on 9/11 Sue the US, Claiming
>Mistreatment and Torture
>Four of the five Israelis arrested on 9/11 (see September 11, 2001),
>Paul and Sylvian Kurcheil, Omer Marmari, and Vyron Shmuel, file a
>multimillion dollar lawsuit against the US Justice Department. They
>claim they were arrested illegally, then held without charge and
>interrogated and tortured for months. Their lawyer claims the case will
>serve as a venue to debunk theories that Israel was behind the 9/11
>attacks. [Ha'aretz, 9/16/2004; Jerusalem Post, 9/16/2004] Forward, a
>publication geared towards the Jewish population in the US, reported in
>2002 that the FBI concluded at least two of the five were Mossad agents
>and that all were on a Mossad surveillance mission.
So, let's get this straight:
- the US government is in cahoots with Israel to commit the 9/11 attack
- the US government allows the FBI to arrest the 'dancing Israelis' and
release info that they think are spies
Good logic there Jake. Is there any logical hole too deep for you conspiracy
whackos?
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>September 16, 2004: New Israeli Art Student Ring in Canada Has
>Unexplained Link to Islamic Fundamentalist Fundraising
What does this have to do with 9/11?
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>AND FINALLY I GIVE YOU THE INTERVIEW WHERE THE DANCING ISRAELIS CONFESS
>THAT THEY WERE SENT TO RECORD THE ATTACKS THUS IMPLYING THEY HAD
>FOREKNOWLEDGE
Where do they confess it? Where do they "confess" to being mossad agents
with foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks? Stop making shit up, loser.
>(WE KNOW FROM ALL THE MOSSAD WARNING REPORTS THAT ISRAEL KNEW THE
>ATTACKS WERE COMING. WE ALSO KNOW FROM THE ODIGO WARNINGS THAT MOSSAD
>KNEW. WE KNOW FROM MANY SOURCES THAT MOSSAD KNEW WHEN AND WHERE THE
>ATTACKS WERE GOING:
You don't "know" any such thing, kook-boy, nor do you have any evidence for
it.
>> No. The problem is Jake, that you have no evidence of secret mossad
>> agents
>> dancing around and filming an attack they had foreknowledge of.
>They confessed to being mossad when they were caught.
Did they? Where? They certainly didn't do it in those stupid videos you keep
linking to
>They have also talked about it last year on Israeli national
>television. They state that it was their job on that day to film the
>attacks, that this is why they were sent to New York - to document the
>attacks.
>I just showed you the Israeli television interview. Are you claiming
>that it is fake?
The video you showed contained nothing of the sort, you crackpot.
>
>
>>From which very stupid assertions are drawn
>There are no assertions drawn in the documentary.
Oh, so they don't assert 9/11 was an inside job?
>
>> I showed you one example of how these facts put together clearly
>> exposed Rice/Bush/Rumsfeld as lying about foreknowledge and you said
>> that the sources were rubbish and yet all the sources are from
>> reputable internationally recognised news publications.
>
> Your assertions and what sources actually *say* are not the same thing,
> Jake
>No this is exactly what they said. You appear to be deliberately lying.
LOL, says the SAS hero.
>If I showed you a dead body in the morgue of your mother you'd say I
>had no evidence that she was dead.
No, I'd say you had no evidence that she'd been killedby the mossad using
CIA-designed death ray machines.
>its just boring. I've just browsed some of your posts from over the two
>years - all you do is enter into threads and agitate the community with
>irrelevant snipes. Its what you do.
>I pity someone who spends their time like that. I am satisfied that you
>live an unfullfilled miserable and bitter life. You seem to hate people
>in general. I doubt you have any friends.
Bwehehehe, says the fellow who builds more fantasies for himself than anyone
on usenet. Sep 11 revolution, fighting with Hamas and the SAS, being a
retired millionaire, having a 152 IQ, being the leader of 100,000 armed
warriors, and so on........
>You should go and talk to a psychologist and show her/him your posts.
See above :)
>I think you have an anti-social problem and if you get help for it you
>will become more particpatory and constructive in your communities. You
>can't go on like this vandalising communities.
ROFL
Say Jake, what happened to all your faggy threats to slit people's throats,
blow them up, have them assassinated, and so on?
>Look, if there is nothing wrong with you then it is not going to hurt
>to go and see a psychologist is it? And if there is something wrong
>with you that a psychologist could help you with then you will gain
>won't you? What can you lose? You can arrange for a free consultation.
>You have nothing to lose.
(smirk)
>Please go and show your posts to a professional.
>I went and saw a psychologist when my friend died. We talked about 9/11
>Truth and she knew all about it.
You never did any such thing. Remind us about your 100000 warriors who will
restore truth and democracy :)
The Complete 9/11 Timeline
Paul Thompson In mid-2002, Paul Thompson, a Northern California native
and Stanford University alumnus with no previous interest in the
subject of terrorism, became intrigued by several stories regarding
9/11 which suddenly appeared in the press-among them, CBS News'
revelation that President Bush was given a Presidential Daily Briefing
(PDB) on August 6th, 2001, warning of an impending attack by Osama bin
Laden in the United States involving aircraft. Thompson found himself
poring over news of the attacks on the internet and growing
increasingly frustrated with how incomplete the story of September 11th
was. He began gathering and condensing every credible fact on 9/11,
setting a rule for himself that he would only include what he could
find in mainstream news sources, and posted those facts online in
chronological order.
Today, The Complete 9/11 Timeline consists of information from over
7,000 mainstream news stories on 9/11, each fact immediately followed
by sourcing which links back to the original news article. New York
newsweekly The Village Voice became the first to bring public attention
to Paul's work, but he was eventually featured everywhere from the
Esquire 'Genius' Issue to Fox News. As Village Voice reporter James
Ridgeway puts it, "Paul Thompson's timeline is based on public
documentation of what we know-what the world knows-about 9/11. It
almost has to be taken more seriously than the 9/11 Commission Report
because it's open. There's nothing secret here." In early 2004,
Thompson finally quit his job at a San Francisco-based environmental
protection group to focus on his timeline full time.
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
>> Where does it say mossad agents were caught filming the WTC collapse with
>> knowledge that they would happen?
>In the interview on Israeli television they state themselves that their
>job was to document the attacks. I just showed you it. Are you saying
>that its fake?
They don't say any such thing you fucking liar. You really must be off your
meds.
