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Author: Ned
Date: May 16, 2008 17:40

Singapore, May 16

When we, a team of four journalists from India, were checking in at
the Indira Gandhi International Airport in New Delhi, a tile fell off
a pillar. We ignored it even as it hit a South-East Asian tourist.
Then, as we stood for security clearance for our flight to Singapore
and then to Perth, another tile fell from the roof, sending shivers
down the security men’s spine. For us, that too didn’t matter.

Our flight to Singapore in Jet Airways was a pleasant one and had no
inkling of the danger that was lurking at the Changi Airport. Thanks
to the traffic congestion at New Delhi, we took off 30 minutes late
and landed here that much late.

Our Qantas flight to Perth was to take off at 7.25 p.m. local time. As
the aircraft began taxiing at 7.15 p.m. and the crew head was making
announcements about our trip, we had no inkling of what was to happen
moments later.
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Author: Paulo
Date: May 17, 2008 04:41

On Sat, 17 May 2008 10:40:45 +1000, Ned
pizzacheeze.com> wrote:
>Singapore, May 16
>
>When we, a team of four journalists from India, were checking in at
>the Indira Gandhi International Airport in New Delhi, a tile fell off
>a pillar. We ignored it even as it hit...
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Author: Sylvia Else
Date: May 17, 2008 16:51

Ned wrote:
> But we were stopped and the firm and strict voices of the crew held us
> back. “Don’t run to exits. Please go back to your seats. Nothing to
> worry,” they shouted.

Obviously they had not read the report of the British Airtours 737
accident at Manchester in which 55 people died despite the aircraft
stopping on the runway and not hitting anything.

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/sites/aaib/cms_resources/dft_avsafety_pdf_502609.pdf

Sylvia.
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Date: May 18, 2008 03:58

On Sun, 18 May 2008 09:51:55 +1000, Sylvia Else
wrote:
>Ned wrote:
>
>> But we were stopped and the firm and strict voices of the crew held us
>> back. “Don’t run to exits. Please go back to your seats. Nothing to
>> worry,” they shouted.
>
>Obviously they had not read the report of the British Airtours 737
>accident at Manchester in which 55 people died despite the aircraft
>stopping on the runway and not hitting anything.
>
>http://www.aaib.gov.uk/sites/aaib/cms_resources/dft_avsafety_pdf_502609.pdf
>
>Sylvia.

Sylvia, you are surely not advocating panicked passenger initiated
evacuation are you? Perhaps the outcome would have been more tragic
had the passengers on the ill fated UK B737 panicked during the
evacuation.
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Author: Sylvia Else
Date: May 18, 2008 05:51

lewydefourth wrote:
> On Sun, 18 May 2008 09:51:55 +1000, Sylvia Else
> wrote:
>
>> Ned wrote:
>>
>>> But we were stopped and the firm and strict voices of the crew held us
>>> back. “Don’t run to exits. Please go back to your seats. Nothing to
>>> worry,” they shouted.
>> Obviously they had not read the report of the British Airtours 737
>> accident at Manchester in which 55 people died despite the aircraft
>> stopping on the runway and not hitting anything.
>>
>> http://www.aaib.gov.uk/sites/aaib/cms_resources/dft_avsafety_pdf_502609.pdf
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> Sylvia, you are surely not advocating panicked passenger initiated
> evacuation are you?
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Author: Kwyjibo
Date: May 18, 2008 05:52

wrote in message
news:0c2034tbj09nsfott8lj1nkc863vqsur9i@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 May 2008 09:51:55 +1000, Sylvia Else
> wrote:
>
>>Ned wrote:
>>
>>> But we were stopped and the firm and strict voices of the crew held us
>>> back. "Don't run to exits. Please go back to your seats. Nothing to
>>> worry," they shouted.
>>
>>Obviously they had not read the report of the British Airtours 737
>>accident at Manchester in which 55 people died despite the aircraft
>>stopping on the runway and not hitting anything.
>>
>>http://www.aaib.gov.uk/sites/aaib/cms_resources/dft_avsafety_pdf_502609.pdf
>>
>>Sylvia.
>
> Sylvia, you are surely not advocating panicked passenger initiated ...
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Date: May 18, 2008 16:06

On Sun, 18 May 2008 22:51:40 +1000, Sylvia Else
wrote:
>lewydefourth wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 May 2008 09:51:55 +1000, Sylvia Else
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ned wrote:
>>>
>>>> But we were stopped and the firm and strict voices of the crew...
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Date: May 18, 2008 16:20

On Sun, 18 May 2008 22:52:14 +1000, "Kwyjibo"
ozdebate.remove.com> wrote:
>
> wrote in message
>news:0c2034tbj09nsfott8lj1nkc863vqsur9i@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 18 May 2008 09:51:55 +1000, Sylvia Else
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Ned wrote:
>>>
>...
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Author: Sylvia Else
Date: May 18, 2008 18:36

lewydefourth wrote:
> On Sun, 18 May 2008 22:51:40 +1000, Sylvia Else
> wrote:
>> No. Rather I'm advocating immediate evacuation of an aircraft that's on
>> fire (and stationary, or can be made so), even if the fire is believed
>> to have been extinguished.
>
> Immediate evacuation would have been initiated if the Perth bound
> aircraft was stationary AND on fire. My interpretation is that some
> pax were panicking and demanding the doors open when the aircraft was
> still moving and the fire already extinguished.

Who says it's already extinguished? The engines are slung on plyons, and
in large part are out of view below the wings.
>> “Maybe, in our country, the crew would have been pushed aside and even
>> trampled upon”.

I didn't write that.
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Date: May 18, 2008 20:59

On Mon, 19 May 2008 11:36:59 +1000, Sylvia Else
wrote:
>lewydefourth wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 May 2008 22:51:40 +1000, Sylvia Else
>> wrote:
>
>>> No. Rather I'm advocating immediate evacuation of an aircraft that's on
>>> fire (and stationary, or can be made so), even if the fire is believed
>>> to have been extinguished.
>>
>> Immediate evacuation would have been initiated if the Perth bound
>> aircraft was stationary AND on fire. My interpretation is that some
>> pax were panicking and demanding the doors open when the aircraft was
>> still moving and the fire already extinguished.
>
>Who says it's already extinguished? The engines are slung on plyons, and
>in large part are out of view below the wings.
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