>
>evidently, and you will remember it being discussed on this newsgroup,
>the problem of alternates into a socked in Perth has actually
>occurred.
>
>the large jet was making its way to perth only to...

> On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:23:21 +0800, Stealth Pilot
> aeroplanes.com.au> wrote:
>

>> evidently, and you will remember it being discussed on this newsgroup,
>> the problem of alternates into a socked in Perth has actually
>> occurred.
>>
>> the large jet was making its way to perth only to arrive with perth
>> airport socked in. captain (the pilot) worked out the fuel remaining
>> as enough for 4 missed approaches. 2 were attempted to minimums and
>> had to wave off when nothing was visible. another was attempted and
>> had to wave off with absolutely solid clag at the decision height.
>> captain was told to seek the alternative airport (learmonth)
>>
>> captain then declared pan pan pan and a fuel emergency.
>> last landing was made with the autoland engaged and the approach flown
>> on the computer hands off.
>> said computer greased the landing on in totally opaque skies (fog).
>> ...

> On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:23:21 +0800, Stealth Pilot
> aeroplanes.com.au> wrote:
>

>> evidently, and you will remember it being discussed on this newsgroup,
>> the problem of alternates into a socked in Perth has actually
>> occurred.
>>
>> the large jet was making its way to perth only to arrive with perth
>> airport socked in. captain (the pilot) worked out the fuel remaining
>> as enough for 4 missed approaches. 2 were attempted to minimums and
>> had to wave off when nothing was visible. another was attempted and
>> had to wave off with absolutely solid clag at the decision height.
>> captain was told to seek the alternative airport (learmonth)
>>
>> captain then declared pan pan pan and a fuel emergency.
>> last landing was made with the autoland engaged and the approach flown
>> on the computer hands off.
>> said computer greased the landing on in totally opaque skies (fog).
>> ...

> Stephen James wrote:

>> On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:23:21 +0800, Stealth Pilot
>> aeroplanes.com.au> wrote:

>

>>> evidently, and you will remember it being discussed on this newsgroup,
>>> the problem of alternates into a socked in Perth has actually
>>> occurred.

>

>>> the large jet was making its way to perth only to arrive with perth
>>> airport socked in. captain (the pilot) worked out the fuel remaining
>>> as enough for 4 missed approaches. 2 were attempted to minimums and
>>> had to wave off when nothing was visible. another was attempted and
>>> had to wave off with absolutely solid clag at the decision height.
>>> captain was told to seek the alternative airport (learmonth)

>

>>> captain then declared pan pan pan and a fuel emergency.
>>> last landing was made with the autoland engaged and the approach flown
>>> on the computer hands off.
>>> said computer greased the landing on in totally opaque skies (fog). ...

> isnt it high time that Perth Airport put in a full instrument landing
> system?

> On Jun 2, 9:06 am, BernieFlyer gmail.com> wrote:

>> Stephen James wrote:

>>> On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:23:21 +0800, Stealth Pilot
>>> aeroplanes.com.au> wrote:

>>>> evidently, and you will remember it being discussed on this newsgroup,
>>>> the problem of alternates into a socked in Perth has actually
>>>> occurred.
>>>> the large jet was making its way to perth only to arrive with perth
>>>> airport socked in. captain (the pilot) worked out the fuel remaining
>>>> as enough for 4 missed approaches. 2 were attempted to minimums and
>>>> had to wave off when nothing was visible. another was attempted and
>>>> had to wave off with absolutely solid clag at the decision height.
>>>> captain was told to seek the alternative airport (learmonth)
>>>> captain then declared pan pan pan and a fuel emergency.
>>>> last landing was made with the autoland engaged and the approach flown
>>>> on the computer hands off.
>>>> said computer greased the landing on in totally opaque skies (fog).
>>>> my congratulations go to the initiative of the crew.
>>>> isnt it high time that Perth Airport put in a full instrument landing ...

> I'm just horrified that the situation is accepted in Australia.
> the guy had no significant fuel remaining, no available alternative (
> an hour and a half flight to the alternative) no instrument system
> capable of competently aiding the situation.
> to sort it out he declared PAN to switch off the regulations then with
> no possibility of going around if the manouver went wrong did a
> totally blind manouver.

> the fact that he pulled it off with skill and a lot of balls means
> that the entire aviation safety system goes back to sleep until the
> next disaster.

> Stealth Pilot wrote...
>

>> isnt it high time that Perth Airport put in a full instrument landing
>> system?

>
> Shouldn't they all?
>
> How many times do you hear of diverted flights into MEL, for example?
>
> I remember on a flight into JFK it must've been all on auto as the fog, cloud or
> whatever was present all the way in. When the aircraft touched down the whole
> cabin cheered, clapped, etc. I shrugged and asked my wife who at the time flew
> this route fairly often, was this normal?
>
> Whatever, the approach and landing all was fairly smooth other than buffetting
> that you experience in these sorts of conditions.