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Author: AAAA Date: Aug 14, 2007 01:18
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Author: Stealth PilotStealth Pilot Date: Aug 14, 2007 07:01
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:18:43 +1000, AA
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no I'm not trawling pprune to read the link.
subsidy or no, just where are these adsb units I ask you.
12 volt powered, fit in a small aircraft, you know the stuff.
adsb is an utter load of wank.
the concept may be sound but where are the units?
Stealth Pilot
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Author: AAAA Date: Aug 14, 2007 16:34
Stealth Pilot wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:18:43 +1000, AA
> wrote:
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> no I'm not trawling pprune to read the link.
> subsidy or no, just where are these adsb units I ask you.
> 12 volt powered, fit in a small aircraft, you know the stuff.
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> adsb is an utter load of wank.
> the concept may be sound but where are the units?
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> Stealth Pilot
I just knew you'd come out with this crap again!!
AA
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Author: TBTB Date: Aug 14, 2007 23:25
"sb" usa.net> wrote in message
news:bjb4c3l0p2orq5vjftsn6dk7t0r1edk12k@4ax.com...> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 20:38:03 +0100, "TB" b.com> wrote:
>> Isn't the Australian 'standard' different to the rest?
Not sure. I guess you would also have to fit GNSS system to provide position
info.
Can anyone provide some insight?
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Author: bradbrad Date: Aug 15, 2007 01:46
On Aug 15, 8:36 am, sb usa.net> wrote:
No. The system currently favoured is Mode S ES (extended squitter) and
equipment is being produced that is capable of this mode, but it is
VERY new. Garmin have recently announced that the software upgrade is
available for their GTX330, 330D and 33 transponders. Honeywell has it
as an option on their KT74 transponder.
The system that is different is the Capstone project, operating at
978MHz. There will be new ADSB equipment on the market soon that is
based on these types of datalinks.
The Australian Standard is one of the reasons why the first attempt
fell over. The new ES system is also being adopted in Europe and USA.
Per the earlier links, the Garmin GTX328 is NOT compatible nor is the
327.
Brad.
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Author: bradbrad Date: Aug 15, 2007 01:47
On Aug 15, 12:01 am, Stealth Pilot aeroplanes.com.au>
wrote:
> adsb is an utter load of wank.
> the concept may be sound but where are the units?
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> Stealth Pilot
Why don't you try doing some research?
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Author: Stealth PilotStealth Pilot Date: Aug 15, 2007 05:25
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 20:38:03 +0100, "TB" b.com> wrote:
first words in the blurb "designed exclusively for europe"
no
possibly
2198 euro.
2460 euro
again 2,460 euro
$us 5,350
so let me get this straight. you want/expect me to fit to my aircraft
an electronic device costing over $aus3,000 which provides not a
single benefit to me in the aircraft I'm flying?
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Author: bradbrad Date: Aug 15, 2007 14:01
On Aug 15, 10:25 pm, Stealth Pilot aeroplanes.com.au>
wrote:>
> so let me get this straight. you want/expect me to fit to my aircraft
> an electronic device costing over $aus3,000 which provides not a
> single benefit to me in the aircraft I'm flying?
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> bear in mind, before you blather away, that commercial aircraft fly
> over 20,000 ft higher than me for all but the last mile or so of
> flight and that is only to two airfields in all of australia that I
> fly into.
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> those costs represent about 8 years of flying expenses.
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> Stealth Pilot
And you aren't paying for it.
And it is that last mile that is of concern.
And the IFR deadline is 2010 and VFR a couple of years later.
You carry a transponder don't you? Why? it is of no benefit.
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Author: AAAA Date: Aug 15, 2007 21:29
Stealth Pilot wrote:
> $us 5,350
>
> so let me get this straight. you want/expect me to fit to my aircraft
> an electronic device costing over $aus3,000 which provides not a
> single benefit to me in the aircraft I'm flying?
>
> bear in mind, before you blather away, that commercial aircraft fly
> over 20,000 ft higher than me for all but the last mile or so of
> flight and that is only to two airfields in all of australia that I
> fly into.
>
> those costs represent about 8 years of flying expenses.
>
> Stealth Pilot
You won't be paying for it, you will get a $10,000-00 voucher from AsA
for it - increases the value of your acft without you paying a cent.
Even a tightwad like you should be able to see the benefit in that.
AA
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