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Author: PitsPits Date: Sep 5, 2007 21:46
Gulf Air fined for breaching curfew
Thursday, September 06, 2007
Missing the clock by a few minutes has cost Gulf Air a record $167,500
in fines for breaching Sydney Airport's curfew on incoming and
outgoing flights past 11pm.
"There are real and genuine victims: those persons who are trying to
sleep or otherwise enjoy some respite," The Magistrate who decided the
verdict, David Heilpern, said in Downing Centre Local Court as
reported in the Sydney Morning Herald yesterday.
The hefty fine was for two breaches of the curfew, which Mr Helipern
said the airline crews chose to breach despite being refused the
dispensation required under law and being warned of the penalty's
involved.
It was reported that on each occasion it was the crew's decision and
not that of the air traffic controllers', with both incidents taking
place in 2005 the first at 11.14pm and the second on 11.28pm.
Departures of both flights were delayed due to mechanical repairs.
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Author: RMKRMK Date: Sep 6, 2007 05:57
To 'depart' SYDNEY around curfew time, you need to have your 'taxi
clearance' before 11pm!
If you receive a 'taxi clearance'before 11pm, you can then taxi at your
leisure and depart after 11pm.
The only proviso is you depart off Runway 16R. No departures off Runway 34L
after 10:45pm!
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Author: BrianBrian Date: Sep 6, 2007 07:44
RMK wrote:
> To 'depart' SYDNEY around curfew time, you need to have your 'taxi
> clearance' before 11pm!
> If you receive a 'taxi clearance'before 11pm, you can then taxi at your
> leisure and depart after 11pm.
Wouldn't that be an 'airways clearance'? Isn't there a time limit to
comply with a taxi clearance?
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Author: MartyMarty Date: Sep 6, 2007 11:33
Brian wrote:
> Wouldn't that be an 'airways clearance'? Isn't there a time limit to
> comply with a taxi clearance?
No, it is once the taxi clearance is received.
Refer: http://use.net.au/?sbWMO
Pilots are obligated to maintain a listening watch on frequency once the
clearance is received but, like you said, they are also expected to action
the instruction within a specific timeframe - which I can't find reference
to in the AIP. I'll have a look in the Jepps when I get home!
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Author: ricric Date: Sep 6, 2007 22:24
> Gulf Air fined for breaching curfew
> Thursday, September 06, 2007
>
>
> Missing the clock by a few minutes has cost Gulf Air a record $167,500
> in fines for breaching Sydney Airport's curfew on incoming and
> outgoing flights past 11pm.
>
> "There are real and genuine victims: those persons who are trying to
> sleep or otherwise enjoy some respite," The Magistrate who decided the
> verdict, David Heilpern, said in Downing Centre Local Court as
> reported in the Sydney Morning Herald yesterday.
>
> The hefty fine was for two breaches of the curfew, which Mr Helipern
> said the airline crews chose to breach despite being refused the
> dispensation required under law and being warned of the penalty's
> involved.
> ...
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Author: PitsPits Date: Sep 7, 2007 00:45
On Sep 7, 1:24 pm, "ric" business.com> wrote:>> Gulf Air fined for breaching curfew
>> Thursday, September 06, 2007
>
>> Missing the clock by a few minutes has cost Gulf Air a record $167,500
>> in fines for breaching Sydney Airport's curfew on incoming and
>> outgoing flights past 11pm.
>
>> "There are real and genuine victims: those persons who are trying to
>> sleep or otherwise enjoy some respite," The Magistrate who decided the
>> verdict, David Heilpern, said in Downing Centre Local Court as
>> reported in the Sydney Morning Herald yesterday.
>
>> The hefty fine was for two breaches of the curfew, which Mr Helipern ...
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Author: nedned Date: Sep 7, 2007 04:16
GB wrote:
>> No I do dont see any "bias" in His worships judgment Cough
>> splutter
>> BUT!!!! This may be a dangerous precedent for the industry whether
>> the judgment gets challenged or not
>
Pretentious garbage snipped.
> The problem with the gutter press (channel 7, 9, daily
> telegraph and their equivalents in other states) is that
> they have (or pretend not to have) any comprehension of
> how the law works. They do double damage when they make it
> their life's work to poison the minds of the public against
> the legal system.
>
BWAHAHAHA - last time I looked every opinion poll on the most trusted
professions had lawyers floundering at or near the bottom of the pond
with good reason.
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Author: Rob FordRob Ford Date: Sep 7, 2007 12:17
Peter Fanelli wrote:
>
> Don't you know how to fix a barking dog?
>
> Nice cold bucket of water will do it and it doesn't harm the dog.
I saw an episode of Seinfeld that details a better and slightly more
permanent plan :)
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Author: Peter FanelliPeter Fanelli Date: Sep 7, 2007 15:08
nospam@usenet.fake (Rob Ford) wrote in news:fbs83f$k4c$1@ aioe.org:
> Peter Fanelli wrote:
>>
>> Don't you know how to fix a barking dog?
>>
>> Nice cold bucket of water will do it and it doesn't harm the dog.
>
> I saw an episode of Seinfeld that details a better and slightly more
> permanent plan :)
>
>
>
Well yes there are other methods also. :)
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