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	<title><![CDATA[Obama 'Barack' bin Laden in einer 'lose/lose'-situation hinsichtlich mohammedaner]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br>Obama website riles Muslims<br><br>Some American-Muslim leaders say Barack Obama's website aimed at countering<br>rumors that he is a Muslim -- <a href="http://fightthesmears.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">fightthesmears.com</a> -- sends a negative message<br>about their religion.<br><br>Vanessa Alikhan was at a Democratic ''unity party'' when she overheard<br>another guest indignantly refute the rumor that Barack Obama is Muslim, as<br>if it were a racial slur. She later recounted the conversation to a friend.<br><br>''She told me that this is politics and that I should just deal with it,''<br>said Alikhan, a Fort Lauderdale graphic artist who converted to Islam about<br>five years ago. ``To me this is the same as telling an African American or a<br>Jewish person they should deal with discrimination because people aren't<br>ready to embrace them as a group.''<br><br>She and other American Muslims are speaking out, as the Obama campaign<br>pushes back on widely e-mailed and patently false claims that he is tied to<br>Islamic terrorists. The rumor could be particularly damaging in a must-win<br>state like Florida, which has a large Jewish population.<br><br>Determined not to be ''swift-boated'' the way 2004 nominee John Kerry was<br>buried by attacks on his military record, the Obama campaign has set up the<br>website <a href="http://www.fightthesmears.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">www.fightthesmears.com</a>. While Muslim leaders understand the<br>campaign's responsibility to counter misinformation, they say the<br>classification of being Muslim as a ''smear'' goes too far.<br><br>Their outrage peaked when the Obama campaign asked two women wearing head<br>scarves to move away from the candidate -- and the television cameras -- at<br>a rally last month in Detroit. Obama personally apologized to the women, but<br>the incident reflected the difficulties of balancing hard-nosed political<br>calculations with the campaign's overall message of change and unity.<br><br>''The truth is Obama has both set the record straight about his religious<br>upbringing, background and faith -- and spoken out against efforts to<br>marginalize Muslims,'' said Obama campaign spokesman Josh Earnest.<br><br>`I'M NOT A MUSLIM'<br><br>He pointed to Obama's interview with CBS' 60 Minutes, in which he said, ``I<br>have never been a Muslim. I'm not a Muslim. These e-mails are obviously not<br>just offensive to me, somebody who is a devout Christian, who's been going<br>to the same church for the last 20 years, but it's also offensive to<br>Muslims, because it plays into, obviously, a certain fear-mongering there.''<br><br>But some Muslim leaders said Obama needs to do more to make it clear that he<br>welcomes their support in his campaign. Though he's spoken at many churches<br>and synagogues -- including a conservative congregation in Boca Raton -- he<br>has never visited a mosque, said Altaf Ali, executive director of the South<br>Florida chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. There are<br>between 200,000 and 400,000 Muslims in Florida and about seven million<br>nationwide.<br><br>The Muslim community saw little outreach from presidential candidates until<br>2000, when Republican George Bush successfully enlisted Muslim donors and<br>included mosques in his proposal for government partnering with religious<br>institutions. But since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, many American<br>Muslims say they are treated with suspicion.<br><br>''Since 9/11, our community has been portrayed as inherently evil, and what<br>Obama is doing is adding to the negative stereotype,'' Ali said. ``His<br>message is about change, and he has to appeal to every minority group.''<br><br>That's a tall order for the first African-American presidential nominee as<br>he tries to broaden his appeal for the general election. Ali said that<br>Obama, who spent part of his childhood in Indonesia, the largest Muslim<br>country in the world, is uniquely suited ``to be a bridge between America<br>and the Muslim world.''<br><br>Saif Ishoof, president of the Center for Voter Advocacy, a nonpartisan group<br>that educates Muslims about the political process, said Republican John<br>McCain also needs to show more sensitivity.<br><br>Ishoof, a lifelong Republican, said he bristles when McCain consistently<br>refers to ``Islamic terrorists.''<br><br>''By using that phraseology, he is giving credence to a world view that 99<br>percent of Muslims do not consider their own,'' said Ishoof, an attorney who<br>runs a Miami engineering firm.<br><br>Though the Muslim community pales in comparison to other religious voting<br>blocs in Florida, Ishoof noted that it is concentrated in central Florida,<br>the battleground region of the state.<br><br>CRITICAL VOTE<br><br>Muslim voters could make the difference in several states crucial to winning<br>the White House, including Michigan, Ohio and Virginia.<br><br>''Every vote is going to be critical,'' Ishoof said.<br><br>Alikhan said she will continue to volunteer for the Obama campaign but vowed<br>that she will also try to educate voters about Islam. She described her<br>recent experience with anti-Muslim bias in an e-mail to about 1,500 friends<br>and Democratic activists.<br><br>The e-mail began ''Hello and Salaams'' and ended with, ``The photos are of<br>me and my husband so that you can see what a Muslim American looks like.''<br><br>They are an attractive, well-dressed couple in their 30s who look like they<br>belong in a South Beach club -- except that they heed their religion's<br>prohibition on drinking.<br><br>''I am an American, and I felt all of the pain that Americans felt for the<br>9/11 victims,'' Alikhan said. ``Yet I've had fingers pointed at me and been<br>asked the most ridiculous questions you can imagine. . . . I'm not asking<br>Obama to go to a mosque or call me on the phone, but I'd like to see him<br>show some more sensitivity.''<br><br><br><a href="http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/story/595064.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/story/595064.html</a><br><br><br><br>-- <br>Give us back our countries: Stop the criminal multiculturalism ideology<br>enforced upon the white world against the will of its peoples, leading to<br>mass immigration from the third-world: Mul-cul + pol-corr = lethal mixture<br>for the white world. And give us back our freedom: Dismantle all<br>surveillance technology.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Italien: Mailand schliesst moschee]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br><a href="http://www.pi-news.net/2008/07/mailaender-moschee-wird-geschlossen" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.pi-news.net/2008/07/mailaender-moschee-wird-geschlossen</a>/<br><br>Siehe auch dieses foto der gl<br>
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	<title><![CDATA[England: Sniffer dogs to wear 'Muslim' bootees]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br><br>Faith Central: Police puppy considered "ritually" unclean<br><br>Police sniffer dogs will have to wear bootees when searching the homes of<br>Muslims so as not to cause offence.<br><br>Guidelines being drawn up by the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo)<br>urge awareness of religious sensitivities when using dogs to search for<br>drugs and explosives. The guidelines, to be published this year, were<br>designed to cover mosques but have been extended to include other buildings.<br><br>Where Muslims object, officers will be obliged to use sniffer dogs only in<br>exceptional cases. Where dogs are used, they will have to wear bootees with<br>rubber soles. "We are trying to ensure that police forces are aware of<br>sensitivities that people can have with the dogs to make sure they are not<br>going against any religious or cultural element within people's homes. It is<br>being addressed and forces are working towards doing it," Acpo said.<br><br> Problems faced by the use of sniffer dogs were highlighted last week when<br>Tayside police were forced to apologise for a crime prevention poster<br>featuring a german shepherd puppy, in response to a complaint by a Muslim<br>councillor.<br><br>Islamic injunctions warn Muslims against contact with dogs, which are<br>regarded as "unclean".<br><br>Police dogs at present are issued with footwear only at scenes of explosions<br>to prevent them injuring their paws on broken glass.<br><br>Ibrahim Mogra, one of Britain's leading imams, said the measures were<br>unnecessary: "In Islamic law the dog is not regarded as impure, only its<br>saliva is. Most Islamic schools of law agree on that. If security measures<br>require to send a dog into a house, then it has to be done. I think Acpo<br>needs to consult better and more widely.<br><br>"I know in the Muslim community there is a hang-up against dogs, but this is<br>cultural. Also, we know the British like dogs; we Muslims should do our bit<br>to change our attitudes."<br><br>John Midgley, co-founder of the Campaign Against Political Correctness,<br>said: "The police are in effect being overly sensitive to potential<br>criminals and not being sensitive enough to the public at large who need to<br>be protected. These sort of things have a counter-productive effect because<br>they cause huge friction between different communities."<br><br>Caroline Kisko, of the Kennel Club, said: "We would not condone any attempt<br>to make search dogs wear special clothing, which could cause them distress."<br><br><br><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4276489.ece" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4276489.ece</a><br><br><br><br>-- <br>Give us back our countries: Stop the criminal multiculturalism ideology<br>enforced upon the white world against the will of its peoples, leading to<br>mass immigration from the third-world: Mul-cul + pol-corr = lethal mixture<br>for the white world. And give us back our freedom: Dismantle all<br>surveillance technology.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Ibn Warraq: Why the West Is Best - My response to Tariq Ramadan]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br>Last October, I participated in a debate in London, hosted by Intelligence<br>Squared, to consider the motion, "We should not be reluctant to assert the<br>superiority of Western values." Muslim intellectual Tariq Ramadan, among<br>others, spoke against the motion; I spoke in favor, focusing on the vast<br>disparities in freedom, human rights, and tolerance between Western and<br>Islamic societies. Here, condensed somewhat, is the case that I made.<br><br>The great ideas of the West-rationalism, self-criticism, the disinterested<br>search for truth, the separation of church and state, the rule of law and<br>equality under the law, freedom of thought and expression, human rights, and<br>liberal democracy-are superior to any others devised by humankind. It was<br>the West that took steps to abolish slavery; the calls for abolition did not<br>resonate even in Africa, where rival tribes sold black prisoners into<br>slavery. The West has secured freedoms for women and racial and other<br>minorities to an extent unimaginable 60 years ago. The West recognizes and<br>defends the rights of the individual: we are free to think what we want, to<br>read what we want, to practice our religion, to live lives of our choosing.<br><br>In short, the glory of the West, as philosopher Roger Scruton puts it, is<br>that life here is an open book. Under Islam, the book is closed. In many<br>non-Western countries, especially Islamic ones, citizens are not free to<br>read what they wish. In Saudi Arabia, Muslims are not free to convert to<br>Christianity, and Christians are not free to practice their faith-clear<br>violations of Article 18 of the United Nations' Universal Declaration of<br>Human Rights. In contrast with the mind-numbing enforced certainties and<br>rules of Islam, Western civilization offers what Bertrand Russell once<br>called "liberating doubt," which encourages the methodological principle of<br>scientific skepticism. Western politics, like science, proceeds through<br>tentative steps of trial and error, open discussion, criticism, and<br>self-correction.<br><br>One could characterize the difference between the West and the Rest as a<br>difference in epistemological principles. The desire for knowledge, no<br>matter where it leads, inherited from the Greeks, has led to an institution<br>unequaled-or very rarely equaled-outside the West: the university. Along<br>with research institutes and libraries, universities are, at least ideally,<br>independent academies that enshrine these epistemological norms, where we<br>can pursue truth in a spirit of disinterested inquiry, free from political<br>pressures. In other words, behind the success of modern Western societies,<br>with their science and technology and open institutions, lies a distinct way<br>of looking at the world, interpreting it, and recognizing and rectifying<br>problems.<br><br>The edifice of modern science and scientific method is one of Western man's<br>greatest gifts to the world. The West has given us not only nearly every<br>scientific discovery of the last 500 years-from electricity to computers-but<br>also, thanks to its humanitarian impulses, the Red Cross, Doctors Without<br>Borders, Human Rights Watch, and Amnesty International. The West provides<br>the bulk of aid to beleaguered Darfur; Islamic countries are conspicuous by<br>their lack of assistance.<br><br>Moreover, other parts of the world recognize Western superiority. When other<br>societies such as South Korea and Japan have adopted Western political<br>principles, their citizens have flourished. It is to the West, not to Saudi<br>Arabia or Iran, that millions of refugees from theocratic or other<br>totalitarian regimes flee, seeking tolerance and political freedom. Nor<br>would any Western politician be able to get away with the anti-Semitic<br>remarks that former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad made in 2003.<br>Our excusing Mahathir's diatribe indicates not only a double standard but<br>also a tacit acknowledgment that we apply higher ethical standards to<br>Western leaders.<br><br>A culture that gave the world the novel; the music of Mozart, Beethoven, and<br>Schubert; and the paintings of Michelangelo, da Vinci, and Rembrandt does<br>not need lessons from societies whose idea of heaven, peopled with female<br>virgins, resembles a cosmic brothel. Nor does the West need lectures on the<br>superior virtue of societies in which women are kept in subjection under<br>sharia, endure genital mutilation, are stoned to death for alleged adultery,<br>and are married off against their will at the age of nine; societies that<br>deny the rights of supposedly lower castes; societies that execute<br>homosexuals and apostates. The West has no use for sanctimonious homilies<br>from societies that cannot provide clean drinking water or sewage systems,<br>that make no provisions for the handicapped, and that leave 40 to 50 percent<br>of their citizens illiterate.<br><br>As Ayatollah Khomeini once famously said, there are no jokes in Islam. The<br>West is able to look at its foibles and laugh, to make fun of its<br>fundamental principles: but there is no equivalent as yet to Monty Python's<br>Life of Brian in Islam. Can we look forward, someday, to a Life of Mo?<br>Probably not-one more small sign that Western values remain the best, and<br>perhaps the only, means for all people, no matter of what race or creed, to<br>reach their full potential and live in freedom.<br><br><a href="http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_1_snd-west.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_1_snd-west.html</a><br><br><br><br>-- <br>Give us back our countries: Stop the criminal multiculturalism ideology<br>enforced upon the white world against the will of its peoples, leading to<br>mass immigration from the third-world: Mul-cul + pol-corr = lethal mixture<br>for the white world. And give us back our freedom: Dismantle all<br>surveillance technology.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[England: 'Moon mistaken for UFO']]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2248463/Moon-mistaken-for-UFO.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2248463/Moon-mistaken-for...</a><br><br>Ausschnitt:<br><br>Today officers released a transcript in order to highlight the time wasted <br>by unnecessary 999 calls.<br><br>The bizzare conversation ran as follows:<br><br>Control: "South Wales Police, what's your emergency?"<br><br>Caller: "It's not really. I just need to inform you that across the mountain <br>there's a bright stationary object."<br><br>Control: "Right."<br><br>Caller: "If you've got a couple of minutes perhaps you could find out what <br>it is? It's been there at least half an hour and it's still there."<br><br>Control: "It's been there for half an hour. Right. Is it actually on the <br>mountain or in the sky?"<br><br>Caller: "It's in the air."<br><br>Control: "I will send someone up there now to check it out."<br><br>Caller: "OK."<br><br>After the police patrol car arrives, the script reveals the exchange between <br>the control room and the police officer sent to the scene.<br><br>Control: "Alpha Zulu 20, this object in the sky, did anyone have a look at <br>it?"<br><br>Officer: "Yes, it's the moon. Over."<br><br><br><br><br>-- <br>Give us back our countries: Stop the criminal multiculturalism ideology<br>enforced upon the white world against the will of its peoples, leading to<br>mass immigration from the third-world: Mul-cul + pol-corr = lethal mixture<br>for the white world. And give us back our freedom: Dismantle all<br>surveillance technology.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Der islam ist kein neues problem:  'Primer on Islamic imperialism']]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br><br>One of the alleged sins held against the West by Islamic radicalism - which<br>has declared war on us through Osama bin Laden's fatwa issued in 1998 in<br>London - is imperialism: the imperialism of the Dutch, the British and the<br>French from the 17th to the 20th centuries.  (For some reason, Russian<br>imperialism in Central Asia gets a pass - so far.)  Israel is allegedly an<br>outpost of European imperialism.<br><br>The original western imperial enterprise in the radical Islamic narrative<br>was the Crusades.  The First Crusade began in 1095.  The Crusades were<br>undertaken to reclaim the Holy Land for Christendom.  Reclaim it from whom?<br>From the Muslims.<br><br>But Mohammed died in Medina in 632 as ruler of the Hijaz, the northwest<br>section of Arabia along the Red Sea which includes the holy cities of Mecca<br>and Medina.  But if they controlled the Hijaz in 632, what were the Muslims<br>doing in Jerusalem in 1100?<br><br>Of course, they were there by conquest!  They were they by virtue of Islamic<br>imperialism - the extension of the Land of Islam (Dar al-Islam) by holy war:<br>jihad (notwithstanding the other meanings of this term).<br><br>Let's review.  Muhammad, the founder of Islam, was a warrior and ruler who<br>conquered Mecca and the Hijaz from his base in Medina.  Following The<br>Prophet's death in 632, Islam was spread by Arab and Muslim conquest.  There<br>are Muslims who are not Arabs, but the first phase of expansion was Arab<br>expansion.  The ruler of the Muslim world, the successor to Muhammad, was<br>the Caliph - "the shadow of God on earth."<br><br>The Caliph was both the religious and political head of the Muslim world<br>which, unlike the Christian world, draws no distinction between the two.  In<br>North Africa and the Middle East, the lands that the Arab Muslim world<br>expanded into were controlled by the Byzantine Empire, the successor to the<br>Roman Empire, with its capital at Constantinople.  These were Christian<br>lands.  To the East, between the Middle East and India, was the Persian<br>Empire with a different religious tradition.<br><br>At the death of Muhammad in 632, the realm of Islam consisted of northwest<br>Arabia.  To the north and west is Christian Byzantium, to the east is<br>Persia.  Neither of these are Arab; neither of them are Muslim.  But within<br>100 years, the territory from Persia to Spain is controlled by Muslim Arabs.<br>How did this happen?  Egypt, for instance, was not in 632 an Arab country.<br>It was of a different ethnic stock and had been in existence for 3600 years!<br><br>What happened was conquest, one of the most impressive in history.  Here is<br>a very brief timeline:<br><br>   1. 630 - Muhammad conquers Mecca from his base in Medina.<br>   2. 632 - Muhammad dies in Medina.  Islam controls the Hijaz.<br>   3. 636 - conquest of Syria.  Victory in battle over the Byzantines gives<br>Syria and the surrounding lands, all Christian - including Palestine and<br>Iraq - to the Caliph.<br>   4. 636 - 642 Persia conquered by the Muslims.<br>   5. 642 - conquest of  Egypt.  The Arab/Muslim conquest moves west along<br>North Africa into hitherto non-Arab/non-Muslim lands.<br><br>1st Muslim invasion of Europe: from the West<br><br>   1. 711 - Tariq (after whom Gibraltar is named: the Rock of Tariq - Gib<br>al-Tariq) invades Spain.  The Muslim conquest moves into Europe.<br>   2. 718 - conquest of Spain complete.<br>   3. 732 - Muslim invasion of France is stopped at the Battle of Poitiers<br>(also called the Battle of Tours).  This is regarded as one of the turning<br>points in world history.  The Franks, under their leader Charles Martel (the<br>grandfather of Charlemagne), defeat the Muslims and turn them back out of<br>France.<br><br>Thus, in exactly 100 years, from the death of The Prophet in 632, to 732,<br>the Arab/Muslim realm has extended from the Hijaz, a province in Arabia, to<br>encompass Syria, Palestine, Iraq, Persia, Egypt, the North African littoral,<br>Spain and, temporarily, part of France.  The first European interaction with<br>Islam is with Islam in the role of a conquering army, and, in the case of<br>Spain, one that comes to stay.  Spain becomes a Muslim colony.  Over several<br>hundred years, Spain is reconquered - the reconquista - for Christendom.<br>The last Moors are expelled in 1492 by Ferdinand and Isabella.<br><br>In the 1300's, the Turks take over leadership of the Muslim world from the<br>Arabs.  They establish the Ottoman Empire with its capital at Christian<br>Constantinople after conquering it in 1453.  The Muslim world under Ottoman<br>leadership begins incursions into Europe from the East.<br><br>2nd Muslim invasion of Europe: from the East<br><br>   1. 1453 - Muslim Turks conquer Christian Constantinople and make it the<br>seat of the Caliphate<br>   2. 1456 - Muslims conquer Athens<br>   3. 1478 - Serbia, Bosnia, Crimea come under Ottoman control<br>   4. 1480 - Otranto in Italy taken by the Ottomans<br>   5. 1529 - Vienna besieged by the Ottomans<br>   6. 1683 - Battle of Vienna.  The Turks are defeated by the Polish king<br>Jan Sobieski leading a combined Polish-Lithuanian army.  This is the<br>high-water-mark of Turkish/Muslim conquest of Europe from the East.<br><br>1683 is an important year because after that the Muslim Empire had no<br>further military successes over the West.  Thus, while this date seems lost<br>in the mists of time to most Westerners, it remains a vivid memory in<br>Islamic history because it marks the beginning of a downward slide in<br>military fortunes that ended with the defeat of the Ottoman Empire by the<br>British and French in World War I, the occupation of Muslim lands by the<br>European states, and finally the abolition of the Caliphate itself by<br>Mustafa Kemal (Ataturk) in 1924.<br><br>But in the 1980's, something important happened.  When the Russians invaded<br>Afghanistan in 1979, the U.S. decided that it would support the native<br>Afghan resistance, the mujahedeen.  This resulted in a massive arms support<br>operation by the CIA funneled through the Pakistani intelligence service the<br>ISI.  Thus, the American hand was concealed from the mujahedeen.  When,<br>particularly with the help of the Stinger missile, the Russians were<br>defeated by the mujahedeen, this represented in their own eyes a victory of<br>Islamic forces over those of a modern state - indeed, a superpower -<br>something not seen since the 17th century in the Muslim world.  Here was a<br>model to be built on.<br><br>   1. 1979 - Soviet Union invades Afghanistan<br>   2. 1988 - Soviet Union leaves Afghanistan, defeated by the Muslim<br>mujahedeen.  A victory for Islam over the "West."<br>   3. 1991 - Soviet Union disintegrates.  Who can say that its defeat by the<br>Muslims was not its mortal blow?<br><br>3rd Muslim invasion of Europe: from the South<br><br>And now we find ourselves confronted by a third Muslim attack on the West -<br>a third "invasion of Europe" (if "Europe" is expanded to include North<br>America) by an expansionary Muslim philosophy - by Islamic radicalism.  The<br>first Muslim attack was from the West in the 700's; the second was from the<br>East in the 1400's - 1600's; the third began with the defeat of the Soviet<br>Union in 1988 in Afghanistan and its subsequent collapse and is in the form<br>of mass immigration.<br><br>The philosopher and economist Thomas Sowell instructs us to ask "as compared<br>to what?" when evaluating and criticizing human enterprise.  It is pointless<br>to compare human enterprise to some abstract ideal that has never existed.<br>As Sowell points out, if the standard is set high enough, anything will<br>fail.<br><br>Was the British Empire - the archetype of Western imperialism - a bad thing?<br>As compared to what?  As compared to the Muslim Empires?  As compared to<br>them, the British Empire was a model of enlightenment.  The Muslims pride<br>themselves on their tolerance of minorities.  But that tolerance came at the<br>cost of dhimmitude - second-class citizenship and payment of tributes.  The<br>British Empire was, yes, established by force, but it was not sustained only<br>by force.  It was also sustained by consent.  And it left behind a number of<br>the freest, richest, most liberal countries on earth.  As compared to the<br>Muslims, the British look pretty good.<br><br>But it is not the point of this paper that Arab/Muslim imperialism was an<br>evil, or at least was not a unique evil.  It was a human enterprise with its<br>strengths and weaknesses.  Muslim culture at its highest was high indeed.<br>The Muslims preserved and passed on the Greeks.  The Arabs developed Arabic<br>numerals, and invented the number zero (or the next best thing, recognized<br>the significance of the Indians having done so), the basis of modern<br>mathematics.  Algebra is an Arabic word: al-gebera.  Muslim letters,<br>science, medicine and architecture were at the highest level of achievement.<br><br>But so are our own.  We can't have a double standard here - being impressed<br>by the achievements and conquests of Arab/Muslim civilization but at the<br>same time embarrassed by the even more impressive achievements and conquests<br>of the West.  If conquest is something to be embarrassed by, if it is a<br>moral disqualification, then the Arab/Muslims are at the head of the line;<br>Europe is well back on the list!  And whatever the achievements of medieval<br>Muslim culture, and they were many, they are in the past.  There are few<br>achievements today, and none to compare with those of the West.<br><br>Yes, one can certainly ask about spiritual achievement.  If the Muslims wish<br>to live in the 8th century, nobody is stopping them.  Just as nobody stops<br>the Amish from living in the 18th century.  But if the standard is living in<br>the 21st century, then it is clear that the West is a superior culture in<br>all respects for that - in comfort of living, in science, in medicine, in<br>human rights, in the rights of women to name just a few.<br><br>We are in a fight for our lives against Islamic radicalism.  We cannot<br>unilaterally disarm ourselves morally because of some imagined slights<br>offered to Muslim culture by the West.  Yes, we are the stronger, but that<br>was not always so.  When Muslims were the stronger, they prided themselves<br>on their conquests and their cultural and political dominance, which still<br>shape the world we live in.<br><br><br><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2006/11/primer_on_islamic_imperialism.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.americanthinker.com/2006/11/primer_on_islamic_imperialism.html</a><br><br><br><br>-- <br>Give us back our countries: Stop the criminal multiculturalism ideology<br>enforced upon the white world against the will of its peoples, leading to<br>mass immigration from the third-world: Mul-cul + pol-corr = lethal mixture<br>for the white world. And give us back our freedom: Dismantle all<br>surveillance technology.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br><br>Am 4. juli brachte Jyllands-Posten einen artikel von Alf Ronnby, dozent an <br>der universität Göteborg. Der artikel trägt die überschrift 'Der islam ist <br>religion und politik'.<br><br>Hier macht der verfasser darauf aufmerksam, dass der islam nicht nur eine <br>religion ist, sondern dass der islam eine politische religion ist mit dem <br>ehrgeiz, die dominierende macht in der gesellschaft und der welt zu werden.<br><br>Alf Ronnby schreibt u a:<br><br><br>'In unseren tagen sind es nicht moslemische truppen, die in Europa <br>eindringen. Die invasion drückt sich auf andere weise aus.<br><br>Europa ist in den letzten 20 bis 30 jahren unter moslemischem druck. Grosse <br>einwanderer- und flüchtlingsströme aus den moslemischen ländern sind <br>hierhergekommen.<br><br>Gemäss dem buch The Third Islamic Invasion of Europe sind heute ca 30 <br>millionen moslems in Europa - und sie strömen weiter herbei.<br><br>In 20 jahren werden es wohl doppelt so viele sein.<br><br>Ist das ein problem? Nicht unbedingt, aber wir haben gesehen, dass ein teil <br>der moslems sich nicht wohl fühlt in unseren gesellschaften. Ja, manchmal <br>verachten sie unsere kultur und wollen sie zerstören.<br><br>Islamistische terrorangriffe an verschiedenen stellen Europas sind ausdruck <br>dafür. Aber auf längere sicht entsteht vielleicht ein grösseres problem mit <br>der moslemischen einwanderung.<br><br>Das, was den islam als religion spezifisch macht ist, dass der islam in sich <br>selber klar politisch ist. Der islam unterscheidet nicht zwischen der <br>bürgergesellschaft und dem staat.<br><br>Die islamische gesellschaft ist auch der staat und die geführte politik. Der <br>islam unterscheidet auch nicht zwischen dem geistlichen und dem weltlichen. <br>Alle öffentlichen und privaten angelegenheiten fallen unter das heilige <br>gesetz, scharia.<br><br>Der islam ist in hohem grad traditionsträger und darum politisch <br>konservativ, was deutlich sichtbar ist in moslemischen gesellschaften.'<br><br><br>Das muss politiker und meinungsbildner dazu bringen zu stoppen und <br>nachzudenken, auf welchem gefährlichen kurs sich Europa bewegt.<br><br>Der islam ist eine religion, die ziemlich stark wächst. Die moslems machen <br>heute 19,2 %% der weltbevölkerung aus, ca 1,3 mia, und sie haben die 17,4 %% <br>der katoliken überholt, ca 1,1 mia.<br><br>Jedoch haben die christen (protestanten, katoliken, ortodoxe u a) weiterhin <br>eine mehrheit mit ca 33 %% der weltbevölkerung. Solange sie noch andauert...<br><br><br><a href="http://dendanskeforening.dk/side363-cid-1-aid-2178-mid-1-params-2.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://dendanskeforening.dk/side363-cid-1-aid-2178-mid-1-params-2.html</a><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br><br>Was sind die mitglieder unserer 'elite' nur für komplette idioten...<br><br><br><br><br><br>-- <br>Give us back our countries: Stop the criminal multiculturalism ideology<br>enforced upon the white world against the will of its peoples, leading to<br>mass immigration from the third-world: Mul-cul + pol-corr = lethal mixture<br>for the white world. And give us back our freedom: Dismantle all<br>surveillance technology.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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	<description><![CDATA[Ein brief der tschechischen regierung:<br><br><br>Thank you for your letter addressed to President Klaus regarding the<br>ratification of the Lisbon Treaty. Since unanimity of all the EU member<br>states is required in order for the Lisbon Treaty to be ratified and one<br>member state voted against it, the ratification cannot be continued and the<br>Treaty cannot take effect. Not only the ratification of the Treaty must stop<br>now, but also the implementation of the Treaty must stop now.<br><br>The following are President Klaus's press statements in the wake of the<br>Irish referendum:<br><br>"The Lisbon Treaty project ended today with the decision of the Irish voters<br>and its ratification cannot be continued. In one of the 27 EU countries a<br>referendum on the Lisbon Treaty was held. In one only EU country the<br>politicians allowed the citizens to express their opinion. The result is<br>hopefully a clear message to everybody. It is a victory of freedom and<br>reason over artificial elitist projects and over the European bureaucracy."<br><br>"The whole of Europe should thank the Irish people for slowing down the<br>current erroneous processes towards more unification, towards the<br>suppression of nation states, towards a 'Europe of regions', and towards<br>greater centralization from above, which the Lisbon Treaty embodied. The<br>referendum was a perfect example of what ordinary people think about this<br>development - at odds with the EU-supporting politicians whose motivation<br>lies elsewhere."<br><br>"I cannot imagine any development other than recognition of the fact that<br>this is not the way to go. Let's seek a European model different from a<br>supranational state with its centre in Brussels . Let's go back to a<br>community of friendly, effectively cooperating states. Let's keep most of<br>the competencies on the level of states."<br><br>"We should let people living on the European continent be Czechs, Poles,<br>Italians, Danes, and not make Europeans of them. That is a flawed project.<br>The difference between a Czech, a Pole, an Italian and a Dane (as random<br>examples) and a European is akin to the difference between Czech, Polish,<br>Danish languages and Esperanto. 'Europeanness' is Esperanto: an artificial<br>language."<br><br>"Ratification cannot be continued, the Treaty can no longer enter into<br>force. To continue as though nothing has happened would be pure hypocrisy.<br>This would be more significant news about the 'state of the Union ' than the<br>Irish NO. The ratification of the Lisbon Treaty in the Czech Republic ended<br>last Friday. To pretend something else is undignified - at least if we<br>presume to live in a world where one plus one equals two."<br><br>You can find more information in English on <a href="http://www.klaus.cz" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">www.klaus.cz</a>. The Czech<br>Constitutional Court continues to scrutinize the compliance of the Lisbon<br>Treaty with the Constitution. In this respect the President's reply to the<br>Court of June 3 (i.e. before the Irish vote) is still up-to-date and you can<br>find its English translation on the website (the 5 concluding questions are<br>crucial and I believe they will be of interest to you).<br><br>I would like to thank you, once again, for your kind feedback, as well as<br>for the wishes for the President's early recovery.<br><br><br>Gefunden auf <a href="http://www.hetvrijevolk.com/?pagina=6528" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.hetvrijevolk.com/?pagina=6528</a><br><br><br><br><br>-- <br>Give us back our countries: Stop the criminal multiculturalism ideology<br>enforced upon the white world against the will of its peoples, leading to<br>mass immigration from the third-world: Mul-cul + pol-corr = lethal mixture<br>for the white world. And give us back our freedom: Dismantle all<br>surveillance technology.<br><br><br><br><br>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br><br><a href="http://www.hetvrijevolk.com/files/plastisch/back-to-school-g.jpg" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.hetvrijevolk.com/files/plastisch/back-to-school-g.jpg</a><br><br><br><br><br><br>-- <br>Give us back our countries: Stop the criminal multiculturalism ideology<br>enforced upon the white world against the will of its peoples, leading to<br>mass immigration from the third-world: Mul-cul + pol-corr = lethal mixture<br>for the white world. And give us back our freedom: Dismantle all<br>surveillance technology.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br>Es ist ein empfindliches politisches tema, aber nun nehmen d<br>
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