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]]> Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:37:21 PDT http://www.nnseek.com/e/at.general/need_politicians_lawyers_actors_actresses_media_famous_53040957t.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/at.general/need_politicians_lawyers_actors_actresses_media_famous_53040957t.html yahoo.com> Newsgroups: sci.environment,ny.politics,alt.lawyers,pa.environment,nj.politics Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 7:43 PM Subject: Pollution is killing people in the US and the differences are almost unbelievable. > call it global warming , I call it too much pollution for the earth. Maybe > its more co2, more cars but some places have not had two good air days in > months and it those people who need studies and who need to sue if > possible > for I am stating they are getting the consequences of consistent amounts > of > air that poison their system and makes my chest wheeze. This is the most > unbelievable killing field, that is allowed to happen and if comparisons > were had I have no doubt would prove that there are great differences > between peoples health solely on the amount of pollution they breathe and > food they eat. When news in this country ignores people being murdered you > know damKnow this more then life itself. If comparisons in health between > people who > lived in mostly concentrated polluted areas like Philly ( days and > sometimes > months without 24hours of clean air) and some cities on east coast and > they > compared those people to THOSE WITH CLEAN AIR AND THE TEST > Was VERY THOROUGH , YOU WOULD SEE THE LARGEST CONSPIRACY TO ALLOW > POISONING > OF PEOPLE TO GO ON IN THE usa TODAY. PEOPLE ARE NOT BEING PROTECTED. THERE > IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN ALMOST EVERY CONCEIVEABLE CATEGORY of health if > honest tests were done..BETWEEN AREAS > THAT GET CLEAN AIR AND THOSE THAT ARE POISONED AND GET THE WORSE. > pollution > : more output in costs to healthcare, to more cancers ( no walk will cure > that), to most asthma, etc. Compare the lung function and stress test of > two > contrasting polluted and non polluted cities and you will see that not > only > are some people paying more then anything for the costs of gas and > energy...... they then are paying even more to treat the conditons that > pollution causes more then the people who get clean air... A double and > triple whammy that makes their whole lifecycle one of least production > ,outlay of money for energy and doctors and of poison and victims and > illness where some people are not told or protected about the dangers and > the polluters don't have to clean up their mess . > > > > When your out in traffic do people look happy? Are people healthy? Have > you > read the links to bad health and also the links to pollution major media > and > politicians ignores/ ? Even sandy talks about realtiy of air that is often > stagnant. We have more cancers, more heart disease, more morbidity, > largest > amount of asthma, and depression, and murders, one after another of > politicans who are on the take,, we need a special court at our stadium, > and > a news media and politicians ignoring most all of the most important links > children and families should know and be concerned about. We are breeding > people who fail and then complain afterwards why Philadelphia? > You see all the commercials for healthcare? Its no accident. Think before > you buy a home here and get your family out of one of the biggest > conspiracies to harm people and not tell them why / > its allot of looking away if you expect this city to be next great > anything! > In addition to kids and adults not having jobs and many people in poverty > and teachers who can't seem to teach and most amount of depression and > asthma and most days without clean air and murderers walking around > (100s)- > in case you can ignore all that , and calling that > "seeing the cup half full " then one wonders what you might call empty lol > or you can rationalize anything. Whats left that is bad to avoid ? lol > Many people here once they realize they can add up the links, should be > very > concerned about a conspiracy to allow pollution to harm people without > adequate protection measures or people to tell or warn them. People have a > right to not be happy and just because the damage is slower don't mean its > not harming your familiy! > > as for murder; Kids you feel loved in Philadelphia? Do people look happy? > I > love the part that murderers are great at avoiding people like you Karen. > Their decision to murder only certain people leaves the rest of us > completely safe right? Like people who murder actually are dependable in > making the right decisions in the first place? lol Keep dreaming and > putting > me on ignore.. when you come back to reality you will respond again. > > > To me Philly is made up of people in denial , who are marginalized by > different interests,,, who are not the best educated and who basically > dont' > care what the hell happens even if they spend every cent they got in > denial > ,beer, Eagles and politics, and doctors and worse jail. ...People around > the > US who are smart often think about things entirely different then people > here who get their values based on what the newscasters tell them to think > about. You see action news lately? They look like the grandpa brigade, all > greying before their time. The bottom line is that unless people have > power > to change perceptions , which I certainly don't, the few agencies who try > to > supercede and make changes to protect people won't have much affect. The > news media has the power to change , and big money and unfortuanetly this > is > not something they want to do , > I was out in traffic today and lets hear a doc tell me that air I was > breathin wasn't harming me lol. To think people put up with this everyday > is > beyond comprehension. Its way beyond bad.. its beyond warning. its like > putting your life exposed to mini 9/11 dust each time out there . Of > course > many here with investments and homes and businesses will not believe and > rather default to cynicism. (spelling). > > > > > But again because people do decide to live here enmass, don't make it > healthy or right or sane. You really don't know what percent know the > ramifications or consequences from pollution Like I think I know of them > and > if they did I have to believe many would not choose this area.. Objective > people would default with potential danger for their families. > Have you been up Castor Avenue in the lower Northeast lately, or walked > > > Yes and the reason they move there and not former Philadelphians or newer > professionals for the most part is because they are clueless to the > ramifications of what goes on with increase risks with the pollution here. > I > don't think you could get anyone but poorer people there or people who are > immigrants and don't know any better to live there. To you it might spell > pockets of optimism , to me its sadness as they will ruin their and > families > health. But like I asked you before if the overall consequences is as > damaging as I say, don't you think its a waste of life and time to open up > stores here? Who would warn families here and why? What studies prove its > not dangerous to live here? Anyone? . People might open stores but to > assume > revitalization or future with so many negatives is not sane. > All of these people are Philly's future. If the recent election results > are > any guide, they're not tied into the thinking of the past -- and I share > your generally low opinion of the thinking many native Philadelphians > demonstrate. victims know their assailants. > > Yes but that doesn't mean who they murder or effect is limited to who they > select. To pull the trigger in the first place puts an inordinate amount > of > stupidity and dysfunction in the decision making process . I can't > possibly > feel better off these people who risk their own life and others by > shooting > someone will be able to make the right decisions in the future. Who they > shoot or decide to shoot nextime doesn't make me feel particularily safe.. > sorry. In the past they already made the most horrific , poorest decision > one can possibly make by deciding to murder, it was already one of the > most > horrific , poorest decisions of their life. I certainly don't feel safer > to > think they are ever going to be worth being near.. Quite the contrary I > feel > much more in danger and for good reason. These peoples temper tend to go > off > obviously way too fast . > > That's another reason why violent crime is worrisome but not enough to > steer > people away from an entire city if that city has areas with sufficient > amenities and low violent crime. Bad SCHOOLS will matter more than bad > murder rates and bad air PUT TOGETHER in steering a middle-class family > with > children away from a large city; childless affluent folks, OTOH, don't > have > to worry about the schools, so they can and have repopulated our urban > cores, including that of Philadelphia. > > . Will people decide in a family that murder and pollution are things to > overlook in deferrence to good schools and lower tax? ? Yes, SOME . Will > people smoke and eat a double whopper every other day? Yes. So that don't > make it right or vital or the next greatest decision or city I assure you. > I > strongly disagree what smart people want in the way of living conditions > today.I have talked to enough people to think they understand more then > others what itsike to do the right things for their families and they know > that consistently getting their family in good air could be the difference > between a successful life and a failed one. Thats how polluted it is , > especially here in Philly > . I was out there today and to think people have to breathe this mess so > often with particulate pollution in the hundreds and not affect them... > its > almost incredible. To me its no wonder things negatively happen here. > > > . I just don't find allot of people born here who moved away... coming > back. > Many people I know moved and never came back. Get a clue listen to the > stats, listen to the commercials, listen to the numbers of people > depressed, > sick and cold and who make fun of important things. Why in anyones right > mind would you give your family bad air to breathe and all the other links > I > gave to go with it. > > > > > into play, and that's partly because urbanization itself is a major > contributor to bad air. > > Yes I understand that.. but I also understand other cities are doing much > more. I also understand many people like you who want to do the > rightthings > might underestimate the damage. I come on here specifically not to down > the > city but to warn people what is happening, people who may never comment > but > act with the knowledge I created to find a better place to live then > PHILLY > or to seek more infor for them to decide for themselves. > > > If your city is not so lucky as to be continually and frequently cleansed > by > prevailing winds that blow unpolluted air in, the pollution generated in > the > city will stay there. > > Yes yes yes. and some people will want cleaner air and some people will at > least want to know the risks/ but your reality is not what most > philadelphians want to hear. > > . Its also why more should be done in this region then in other regions.. > to > counter the things we don't have. > > > > . Emission controls, changing our busses, cabs, etc, would be a start. to > changes needed > > e is made worse by the fact that we are downwind of the Ohio Valley and > its > coal-burning power plants. Yes, garofalofan, air quality is something that > should be handled by the state -- of Ohio as well as Pennsylvania. > > Again I don't disagree, so perhaps we need more lawyers to do more to make > sure they clean up their own mess from coal out west which is part of the > solution discussed allot but not much done about it. > > It's something in the air around here.[/quote] I had to cut your part > about > needing meds (sorry) because of word limitiations > > Bingo, and i say to you what I say to Garo, get your loved ones to cleaner > air and make darn sure its cleaner and give your life a chance. I also > suggest you use your writing skills to ask doctors for the comparisions > between people who lived here for long time versus people in clean air for > things like lung function and stress tests and asthma use ( we know its no > accident by now some here need these meds). [/quote] > > More and more links to particle pollution from coal and death do your own > search for particulates and disease here is another. > Remember Philly gets more days of this then most everyone and you wonder > if > your not being set up by your own govt and they are not killing you? > > > http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=4935559 > > >> Its one thing to feel the air as heavy. It one thing to see the trees >>> falling down. Its another to have hard time breathin. Its another to >>> connect the dots and see what pollution has and is doing to people in >>> this >>> area . On good air days I see people happy , out and about, its totally >>> refreshing. On the majority of bad air days I see no one in parks, no >>> happiness, people just exist. This is just my reaction. On the other >>> hand >>> allot of my assertions have more proof. >>> compared to other areas.. To see relatives suffer and lose their health >>> especially on bad air days and others and they simply think its because >>> of >>> some illness not because of particulates is especially depressing, in >>> fact >>> very much so.. They think its something inherindtly wrong with them. Its >>> another to see the F ratings by American Cancer Association. Its another >>> thing to see commercial after commercial for hospitals , and nebulizers >>> offering free all in one packaging to your door, drugs to treat asthma, >>> prescriptions for heart disease and cancer and not a concern or wonder >>> why >>> people need them or how much so compared to other places . Its another >>> to >>> see one in five in area kids need asthma meds so early This is the >>> biggest >>> mass poisoning going on in the US and .. congress and no one can't stop >>> this murder? Its one thing to have links and ask for more studies when >>> the >>> polluters don't have to worry cause the President makes special rules >>> for >>> them? What is going on here? Being poisoned is the American WAY. Tell >>> everyone you know this is really happening. in USA. When you lose your >>> health there is no going back. I assert we don't have to live this way >>> if >>> in this day and age in the greatest country in the world to people who >>> thru no fault of themselves will have to suffer greatly and I am making >>> that assertion , many people will suffer greatly in direct proportion to >>> the degree of pollution they are made to get. >> >> "mcs" yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:xJE4h.2112$9t4.1810@trnddc03... >>> why because they can, they hve role models our leaders >>>> It seems like this exact science where they make you pay for your life >>>> by >>>> charging you fifty cents to eat sodium laden food and then charge you >>>> $1.50 >>>> to buy the same can of soup without salt. , that same mentality hs >>>> filtered >>>> down to pollution. Where the dumb and poor or working class in some >>>> cities get the worse air, most pollution >>>> and illness and thats the status Quo for millions of people. The most >>>> vulnerable or people who are not aware are allowed to get murdered and >>>> they >>>> have to pay for it to corporations who get away with murdering you >>>> because they can and have others in place to further capitalize after >>>> they poison you like TV news , hospitals and pharmacies. . Sorry you >>>> will have to move and sell your home and quit >>>> your job to get out of the way from our poisons because we can get >>>> special >>>> treatment to poison you and make it where you can't sue us, and you >>>> pay >>>> for your poisoning cause you don't >>>> know or refuse to move. This is your fault? Where are the lawyers? >>>> why would you think if they can go over faulty car seat recalls they >>>> wouldn't publish connections between pollution and tens of thousands of >>>> deaths from it in US? Ask yourself that question >>>> in US Now really. Tell others write to Congress This is really really >>>> happening. >>>> >>>> >>>>> when everything else is the same like diet and shelter and health care >>>>> the >>>>> differences I attest between longer life and better health is air >>>>> pollution. >>>>> How many people know its not necessarily anyones illness that causes >>>>> their >>>>> expenses. Its gov policies that know more nOW about the affects of >>>>> particulates, analyzes it and even warns people but does nothing to >>>>> stop >>>>> it >>>>> now. This is way more important then terrorists. This is way more >>>>> likely >>>>> to >>>>> affect Americans now, then terrorists and nothing is done to stop it >>>>> faster. >>>>> People will lose their life simply because corporations need to make a >>>>> profit and if tv media doesn't tell you they can get away with it. >>>>> please write me at mcsantipollution@yahoo.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "mcs" yahoo.com> >>>>> Newsgroups: alt.lawyers,ca.politics,ny.politics.,nj.politics >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:05 AM >>>>> Subject: People in NE SE being poisoned by Particulates >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Congress needs to act now, not in ten years , I dare anyone to >>>>>> compare >>>>>> health stats between the most polluted areas or moderate polluted >>>>>> areas >>>>>> versus clean areas of the country . You are being poisoned, Yahoo, at >>>>>> times >>>>>> blocks my messages, News media completely ignores all connections to >>>>>> pollutions damage , while your family often has ( get this ) almost >>>>>> twice >>>>>> the cancer rates and twic the heart disease rates, where the >>>>>> hospitals >>>>>> are >>>>>> in friendzy to get your business spending tens of millions of dollars >>>>>> for >>>>>> heart treatment ads on tv and newspapers and cancer treatment but >>>>>> MUM >>>>>> why you might need them more >>>>>> then in other places. This is mass poisoning going on in our society, >>>>>> whether its because of global warming or more gasses but its >>>>>> happening. >>>>>> There are many other links , I desperate to tell as many as you as >>>>>> possible, >>>>>> the best athletes in the world, the richest know all this, its common >>>>>> knowledge, the working class has to pay for damages brough on by big >>>>>> business who would literally kill you then to tell you the truth or >>>>>> do >>>>>> more >>>>>> now to help negate the polluters. This is your life there is no going >>>>>> back >>>>>> and in state courts the anti polluters have won but its not enough. >>>>>> In >>>>>> Supreme Court which is swayed by Republicans they are going to tackle >>>>>> issue >>>>>> whether polluters can be sued. Why they get special protection only >>>>>> shows >>>>>> what damage they are allowed to do and make billions at same time. >>>>>> Republicans and Bush have sabotaged findings by our own epa to help >>>>>> dissipate our most ardent polluters.. Thus the pollution that they >>>>>> call >>>>>> moderate will sicken millions of people. This the press doesn't care >>>>>> to >>>>>> tell >>>>>> you about. This is mass poisoning , because we know better. I realize >>>>>> when >>>>>> they say Global warming, its a buzz word for not doing anything about >>>>>> pollution. but still acknowledging the findings of some experts of >>>>>> its >>>>>> ramifications of more gasses. Tell others. protect your family. Its >>>>>> probably >>>>>> too late for me, this is one of the most important issues in your >>>>>> life, >>>>>> not >>>>>> taxes, not even education. this is your families health, where they >>>>>> tell >>>>>> you >>>>>> people are living longer but in what condition and IN ONLY certain >>>>>> areas... >>>>>> From Philadelphia to Sandy Hook, from Se to Newark, many days more >>>>>> then >>>>>> most, you get particulates that kill every cell in your body faster. >>>>>> Please tell your families to be concerned about this, to write >>>>>> Congress >>>>>> and Newsmedia to demand that they go over this issue >>>>>>The people who set these policies, thinks the costs of killing people >>>>>>is >>>>>>worth the extra earnings. This kind of warped value systems filters >>>>>>down >>>>>>in >>>>>>our value system and we ultimately lose our ability to do better and >>>>>>rationalize. >>>>> >>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20060921/hl_hsn/pollutedairmightincreasestrokerisk >>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/22/us/22soot.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/21/AR2006092101616.... >>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15196924/ >>>>> >>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061103/ap_on_sc/un_greenhouse_gases >>>>> >>>>> The TV NEWS ignore it because they don't want to scare people and >>>>> they >>>>> don't want to lose advertising from Hospitals and phamracies >>>> So before you trust tv to tell you the truth think again. >>>> >>>>> This is our value system gone amouck >>>> >>>> >>>> Finally when they say people are living longer and richer its not >>>> always >>>> true. They take the total picture and sum it up. individual states and >>>> cities are being bombarded with pollutants and may I suggest the rate >>>> of >>>> poisoning if it could be proved on a ration basis is more now then >>>> five >>>> years ago in some areas on NE, thats a huge assertion but one I think >>>> honestly is accurate. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > > > > > n well the power of the energy companies > >

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