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Author: pjmutnickpjmutnick Date: Dec 20, 2007 23:42
On Dec 20, 11:22Â pm, "Allen L. Barker" datafilter.com> wrote:> Shirley Knott wrote:
>> oxtail wrote:
>>> Shirley Knott wrote:
>>>> Tang Huyen wrote:
>
>>>>> Ali wrote:
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>>>>>> Robert Epstein:
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>>>>>>> Tang Huyen:
>>>>>>>> Shirley Knott:
>>>>>>>>> I have a neurological and immune illness and whilst I phase in
>>>>>>>>> and out
>>>>>>>>> of mentation regularly during the day I am aware of when it
>>>>>>>>> happens but
>>>>>>>>> everything becomes internal rather than external. Â For example,
>>>>>>>>> I know I
>>>>>>>>> have been watching something like NCIS but remember nothing of the
>>>>>>>>> episode during the mentation pause. Â Lots of interesting things do ...
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Author: Allen L. BarkerAllen L. Barker Date: Dec 21, 2007 00:05
> On Dec 20, 11:22 pm, "Allen L. Barker" datafilter.com> wrote:>> Shirley Knott wrote:
>>> oxtail wrote:
>>>> Shirley Knott wrote:
>>>>> Tang Huyen wrote:
>>>>>> Ali wrote:
>>>>>>> Robert Epstein:
>>>>>>>> Tang Huyen:
>>>>>>>>> Shirley Knott:
>>>>>>>>>> I have a neurological and immune illness and whilst I phase in
>>>>>>>>>> and out
>>>>>>>>>> of mentation regularly during the day I am aware of when it
>>>>>>>>>> happens but
>>>>>>>>>> everything becomes internal rather than external. For example,
>>>>>>>>>> I know I
>>>>>>>>>> have been watching something like NCIS but remember nothing of the
>>>>>>>>>> episode during the mentation pause. Lots of interesting things do
>>>>>>>>>> bubble up internally, it's very much like meditation but it's not
>>>>>>>>>> voluntary and I can't think about it until whatever part of my ...
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Author: Shirley KnottShirley Knott Date: Dec 21, 2007 01:59
Allen L. Barker wrote:
> Shirley Knott wrote:
>> oxtail wrote:
>>> Shirley Knott wrote:
>>>> Tang Huyen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ali wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert Epstein:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tang Huyen:
>>>>>>>> Shirley Knott:
>>>>>>>>> I have a neurological and immune illness and whilst I phase in
>>>>>>>>> and out
>>>>>>>>> of mentation regularly during the day I am aware of when it
>>>>>>>>> happens but
>>>>>>>>> everything becomes internal rather than external. For example,
>>>>>>>>> I know I
>>>>>>>>> have been watching something like NCIS but remember nothing of the
>>>>>>>>> episode during the mentation pause. Lots of interesting things do ...
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Date: Dec 21, 2007 03:28
Shirley Knott wrote:
>> Yes he did. I read the one by Daido. You are just not for real, like
>> so many of your fellows. You think life and death is a subject matter
>> for gossip amongst...
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Author: pjmutnickpjmutnick Date: Dec 21, 2007 03:52
On Dec 21, 3:28Â am, Tang Huyen gmail.com[remove]>
wrote:> Shirley Knott wrote:
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>>> Yes he did. Â I read the one by Daido. Â You are just not for real, like
>>> so many of your fellows. Â You think life and death is a subject matter
>>> for gossip amongst your yenta friends. Â Oh, did he insult so and so.
>>> Oh, my, what shall we do? Â Let's insult him right back. Â And so on,
>>> and so on.
>
>>> See, if you aren't looking for mastery, that is fine, but the term Zen
>>> Master does imply mastery. Â I am looking for mastery, so I cannot be
>>> satisfied with a teacher who does not have mastery. Â I want real
>>> freedom from nature. Â If you don't, that is fine, but then you really
>>> don't believe the First Noble Truth, and so you cannot call yourself a
>>> Buddhist. Â Not all zen is Buddhist. Â Daido's isn't.
>
>> Freedom from nature is to roll with whatever life chucks at you without
>> succoming to the delusion that any part of it is right or wrong, well ...
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Author: Shirley KnottShirley Knott Date: Dec 21, 2007 04:11
Tang Huyen wrote:
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> Shirley Knott wrote:
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>>> Yes he did. I read the one by Daido. You are just not for real, like
>>> so many of your fellows. You think life and death is a subject matter
>>> for gossip amongst your yenta friends. Oh, did he insult so and so.
>>> Oh, my, what shall we do? Let's insult him right back. And so on,
>>> and so on.
>>>
>>> See, if you aren't looking for mastery, that is fine, but the term Zen
>>> Master does imply mastery. I am looking for mastery, so I cannot be
>>> satisfied with a teacher who does not have mastery. I want real
>>> freedom from nature. If you don't, that is fine, but then you really
>>> don't believe the First Noble Truth, and so you cannot call yourself a
>>> Buddhist. Not all zen is Buddhist. Daido's isn't.
>> Freedom from nature is to roll with whatever life chucks at you without
>> succoming to the delusion that any part of it is right or wrong, well ...
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Date: Dec 21, 2007 05:24
Shirley Knott wrote:
> Tang Huyen:
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>> Shirley Knott:
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>>>> Yes he did. I read the one by Daido. You are just not for real, like
>>>> so many of your fellows. You think life and death...
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Author: Shirley KnottShirley Knott Date: Dec 21, 2007 06:03
Tang Huyen wrote:
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> Shirley Knott wrote:
>
>> Tang Huyen:
>>
>>> Shirley Knott:
>>>>> Yes he did. I read the one by Daido. You are just not for real, like
>>>>> so many of your fellows. You think life and death is a subject matter
>>>>> for gossip amongst your yenta friends. Oh, did he insult so and so.
>>>>> Oh, my, what shall we do? Let's insult him right back. And so on,
>>>>> and so on.
>>>>>
>>>>> See, if you aren't looking for mastery, that is fine, but the term Zen
>>>>> Master does imply mastery. I am looking for mastery, so I cannot be
>>>>> satisfied with a teacher who does not have mastery. I want real
>>>>> freedom from nature. If you don't, that is fine, but then you really
>>>>> don't believe the First Noble Truth, and so you cannot call yourself a
>>>>> Buddhist. Not all zen is Buddhist. Daido's isn't. ...
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Date: Dec 21, 2007 15:32
"Allen L. Barker" wrote:
> You criticize someone for getting a neurological
> disease, and then call *me* a sick fuck?
>
> It apparently doesn't take long for you to blow up
> and become irrational. Not that you were really
> rational before, but at least you were calm about
> it. Try not to crash.
>
> You really might consider working on the "Sun face
> Buddha, moon face Buddha" koan yourself.
You really might consider leaving him alone.
Otherwise all your public case training or
whatever might look useless.
Tang Huyen
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Author: pjmutnickpjmutnick Date: Dec 21, 2007 22:36
On Dec 21, 3:32Â pm, "Allen L. Barker" datafilter.com> wrote:
> In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which
> ends with, "There is a sure way to distinguish an
> authentic master from a bogus one: He will not tolerate
> in his disciples an interest in or display of siddhis."
Oh, you lying fuck. These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. See. p. 57.
Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
"Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
abilities to one degree or another. The Buddha himself possessed
numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. But never did
he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had."
NOTE: BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS' MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER: I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
CONCLUSION: I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA HIMSELF TO BE MY
LORD AND MASTER.
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