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Author: RaaNRaaN Date: Feb 22, 2008 23:10
Kensho, literally means "seeing nature", and refers to an awakening
experience, seeing one's true nature, but not a permanent state. To
reach Satori, which is a deeper lasting enlightenment requires some
form of practice. My own practice is contemplation and my insights
are typically brought about by long focussed thought on a
philosophical problem. While I cannot claim to be enlightened nor can
I say I am in a state of Satori the best I can claim is to have had
many and progressively deeper moments of Kensho. Dogen once said,
"Kensho is the animated activity of non-Buddhists" and this suits me
well. As my insights grow deeper, more intense, more penetrating and
more enduring, I may find meditation to be necessary and perhaps not
even voluntary. Naturally if/when I do begin such a practice...
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Author: Robert EpsteinRobert Epstein Date: Feb 22, 2008 23:16
RaaN wrote:
> Kensho, literally means "seeing nature", and refers to an awakening
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Author: KeynesKeynes Date: Feb 23, 2008 00:05
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:16:09 GMT, Robert Epstein verizon.net> wrote:
>RaaN wrote:
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>> Kensho, literally means "seeing nature", and refers to an awakening
>> experience, seeing one's true nature, but not a permanent state. To
>> reach Satori, which is a deeper lasting enlightenment...
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Author: jfezl07jfezl07 Date: Feb 23, 2008 09:23
On 22 Feb, 23:10, RaaN hotmail.com> wrote:
> Kensho, literally means "seeing nature", and refers to an awakening
> experience, seeing one's true nature, but not a permanent state. To
> reach Satori, which is a deeper lasting enlightenment requires some
> form of practice. My own practice is contemplation and my insights
> are typically brought about by long focussed thought on a
> philosophical problem. While I cannot claim to be enlightened nor can
> I say I am in a state of Satori the best I can claim is to have had
> many and progressively deeper moments of Kensho. Dogen once said,
> "Kensho is the animated activity of non-Buddhists" and this suits me
> well. As my insights grow deeper, more intense, more penetrating and
> more enduring, I may find meditation to be necessary and perhaps not
> even voluntary. Naturally if/when I do begin such a practice I will
> of course seek the advice and counsel of those experts on the subject
> who post on these groups. Until then I do not think my current
> practice should be frowned upon or denigrated having borne fruit as it
> has. Each to their own and everyone at their own pace. Could it be
> otherwise?
> --
> RaaN ...
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Author: pseudomodopseudomodo Date: Feb 23, 2008 10:18
On Feb 23, 1:10 am, RaaN hotmail.com> wrote:
> Kensho, literally means "seeing nature", and refers to an awakening
> experience,
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Author: RaaNRaaN Date: Feb 23, 2008 10:33
On Feb 23, 3:05 am, Keynes earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:16:09 GMT, Robert Epstein verizon.net> wrote:
>>RaaN wrote:
>
>>> Kensho, literally means "seeing nature", and refers to an awakening
>>> experience, seeing one's true nature, but not a permanent state. To
>>> reach Satori, which is a deeper lasting enlightenment requires some
>>> form of practice. My own practice is contemplation and my insights
>>> are typically brought about by long focussed thought on a
>>> philosophical problem. While I cannot claim to be enlightened nor can
>>> I say I am in a state of Satori the best I can claim is to have had
>>> many and progressively deeper moments of Kensho. Dogen once said,
>>> "Kensho is the animated activity of non-Buddhists" and this suits me
>>> well. As my insights grow deeper, more intense, more penetrating and
>>> more enduring, I may find meditation to be necessary and perhaps not
>>> even voluntary. Naturally if/when I do begin such a practice I will
>>> of course seek the advice and counsel of those experts on the subject
>>> who post on these groups. Until then I do not think my current
>>> practice should be frowned upon or denigrated having borne fruit as it
>>> has. Each to their own and everyone at their own pace. Could it be ...
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Author: RaaNRaaN Date: Feb 23, 2008 10:41
> On 22 Feb, 23:10, RaaN hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Kensho, literally means "seeing nature", and refers to an awakening
>> experience, seeing one's true nature, but not a permanent state. To
>> reach Satori, which is a deeper lasting enlightenment requires some
>> form of practice. My own practice is contemplation and my insights
>> are typically brought about by long focussed thought on a
>> philosophical problem. While I cannot claim to be enlightened nor can
>> I say I am in a state of Satori the best I can claim is to have had
>> many and progressively deeper moments of Kensho. Dogen once said,
>> "Kensho is the animated activity of non-Buddhists" and this suits me
>> well. As my insights grow deeper, more intense, more penetrating and
>> more enduring, I may find meditation to be necessary and perhaps not
>> even voluntary. Naturally if/when I do begin such a practice I will
>> of course seek the advice and counsel of those experts on the subject
>> who post on these groups. Until then I do not think my current
>> practice should be frowned upon or denigrated having borne fruit as it ...
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Author: RaaNRaaN Date: Feb 23, 2008 10:45
On Feb 23, 1:33 pm, RaaN hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 23, 3:05 am, Keynes earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
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>> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:16:09 GMT, Robert Epstein verizon.net> wrote:
>>>RaaN wrote:
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>>>> Kensho, literally means "seeing nature", and refers to an awakening
>>>> experience, seeing one's true nature, but not a permanent state. To
>>>> reach Satori, which is a deeper lasting enlightenment requires some
>>>> form of practice. My own practice is contemplation and my insights
>>>> are typically brought about by long focussed thought on a
>>>> philosophical problem. While I cannot claim to be enlightened nor can
>>>> I say I am in a state of Satori the best I can claim is to have had
>>>> many and progressively deeper moments of Kensho. Dogen once said,
>>>> "Kensho is the animated activity of non-Buddhists" and this suits me
>>>> well. As my insights grow deeper, more intense, more penetrating and
>>>> more enduring, I may find meditation to be necessary and perhaps not
>>>> even voluntary. Naturally if/when I do begin such a practice I will ...
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Author: RaaNRaaN Date: Feb 23, 2008 10:48
On Feb 23, 1:18 pm, pseudomodo yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 23, 1:10 am, RaaN hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Kensho, literally means "seeing nature", and refers to an awakening
>> experience,
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> Kancho, OTOH, is another, more effective, method to attain an
> awakening experience. So simple that school children employ it as a
> day-to-day method of enlightening each other:
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> http://outpostnine.com/editorials/teacher11.html
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> /leebert
I'm sure you kansho your level of attainment in that area but I'd just
as soon you didn't thanks.
--
RaaNsho
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Author: pseudomodopseudomodo Date: Feb 23, 2008 12:12
On Feb 23, 1:10 am, RaaN hotmail.com> wrote:
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> many and progressively deeper moments of Kensho.
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> grow deeper, more intense, more penetrating ...
You're sure we're not talking about the same thing?
/leebert
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