Re: Great insult!!! (was Re: Riding into town to smite the wicked)
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Re: Great insult!!! (was Re: Riding into town to smite the wicked)         

Group: alt.zen · Group Profile
Author: dt
Date: May 13, 2008 07:22

Keynes wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2008 14:03:27 +0100, Shirley Knott
> wrote:
>
>
>>Keynes wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 13 May 2008 08:21:01 -0400, Tang Huyen
>>>gmail.com[remove]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Robert Epstein wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Tang Huyen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>DharmaTroll wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Shirley Knott:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You are showing your true colours, including
>>>>>>>>lack of compassion and discrimination against
>>>>>>>>the disabled and/or disadvantaged. Nice one!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm supposed to be nice to the paranoid cripple
>>>>>>>who throws rocks at me? You're going for the
>>>>>>>pity routine now? I only mirror back what you
>>>>>>>give; your being paranoid and crippled doesn't
>>>>>>>change that. In fact, here on usenet you seem
>>>>>>>to enjoy flinging your feces just like all the
>>>>>>>healthy monkeys. And now you want
>>>>>>>compassion? Hah.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jigme (the fake DharmaTroll) wrote the
>>>>>>above to Shirley, who is afflicted with MS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Will the "compassion" squad do anything?
>>>>>>Will the "right speech" squad do anything?
>>>>>
>>>>>First of all, this kind of talk is characteristic of the real
>>>>>Dharmtroll, not Jigme. So you will hold onto your silly illusion
>>>>>despite any kind of evidence.
>>>>>
>>>>>Second of all, yes, what he is saying is objectionable, but on the other
>>>>>hand he and Shirley seem to be equally matched. Personally I'm going to
>>>>>stay out of it.
>>>>
>>>>I replied to your post, but a second reply
>>>>is worth it also.
>>>>
>>>>You say that Jigme (the fake DharmaTroll)
>>>>"and Shirley seem to be equally matched".
>>>>She is an MS sufferer who takes a long time
>>>>to type up any post even a short one.
>>>>
>>>>You must have delivered the worst insult
>>>>to Jigme that can be imagined (or that
>>>>cannot be imagined). I could never
>>>>compete with you on it. Congratulations!
>>>>
>>>>Tang Huyen
>>>>
>>>
>>>If one doesn't feel bad about making others hurt,
>>>they must have found some kind of peace and serenity.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>No one is really hurt unless they choose to be hurt. That's one thing I
>>learned from this newsgroup and Tang and buddhapest in particular. It's
>>too easy to drop into knee jerk reactions and old ways of thought that
>>eliminate yourself as the culprit of your own destruction.
>>
>>The thing I realised is I am the common denominator in all my life
>>experiences, change the common denominator, change the experience.
>>Could it really be that simple?
>
>
> Sure.
> You're doing well.
>
> One of the mysteries of buddhism is that no one
> is condemned by apparent circumstances, as folks
> normally assume that they are. (The same thing
> is what the book of Job is about.) Spirituality
> transcends the world of causality.
>
> But DT intended to hurt you for some ignorant
> childish reason. Even if you escaped, others were
> disturbed by his pointless cruelty. I think he just
> wanted to win, to protect his own idea of infallibility
> and self-importance by any means necessary.
>
> My remark was to remind Tang that serenity
> in itself is no great buddhist virtue. The cruel
> are perfectly serene and self-satisfied or else
> they couldn't be so unsympathetic.

Parts of this conversation are edging awfully close to the Dogbert
philosophy: "I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to
people all day long and I assume they deserve it."

DT (the *other* one)
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