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Author: al92653al92653 Date: Aug 13, 2008 09:27
Bush's War in Georgia
Will it be the Flyswatter or the Blunderbuss?
By Mike Whitney
"I saw bodies lying on the streets, around ruined buildings and in
cars. It's impossible to count them now. There's hardly a single building
left undamaged." Lyudmila Ostayeva, resident of Tskhinvali, South Ossetia
11/08/08 "ICH" -- - Washington's bloody fingerprints are all over the
invasion of South Ossetia. Georgia President Mikhail Saakashvili would never
dream of launching a massive military attack unless he got explicit orders
from his bosses at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. After all, Saakashvili owes his
entire political career to American power-brokers and US intelligence
agencies. If he disobeyed them, he'd be gone in a fortnight. Besides an
operation like this takes months of planning and logistical support;
especially if it's perfectly timed to coincide with the beginning of the
Olympic games. (another petty neocon touch) That means Pentagon planners
must have been working hand in hand with Georgian generals for months in
advance. Nothing was left to chance.
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Author: Frank ArthurFrank Arthur Date: Aug 13, 2008 09:46
It is Russia's invasion of the sovereign state of Georgia. Not Bush's
war!
Putin is still smarting over the USA & Nato bombing Yugoslavia and
conming to the aid of Muslims.
"al92653" xyz.com> wrote in message
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> Will it be the Flyswatter or the Blunderbuss?
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> By Mike Whitney
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> "I saw bodies...
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Author: Bruce OlinBruce Olin Date: Aug 13, 2008 11:51
> It is Russia's invasion of the sovereign state of Georgia. Not Bush's war!
>
> Putin is still smarting over the USA & Nato bombing Yugoslavia and conming
> to the aid of Muslims.
>
Saakashvili seems to have fired first. He's "our" man. It seems to me like
the real question is, did we give him the green light? Russia hit back
hard. They must believe in the "Powell Doctrine".
Bruce Olin
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Author: RussellTRussellT Date: Aug 13, 2008 14:51
"al92653" xyz.com> wrote in message
news:rXDok.16493$3l5.11004@newsfe06.iad...> Bush's War in Georgia
>
> Will it be the Flyswatter or the Blunderbuss?
>
> By Mike Whitney
>
> "I saw bodies lying on the streets, around ruined buildings and in
> cars. It's impossible to count them now. There's hardly a single building
> left undamaged." Lyudmila Ostayeva, resident of Tskhinvali, South Ossetia
>
>
> 11/08/08 "ICH" -- - Washington's bloody fingerprints are all over the
> invasion of South Ossetia. Georgia President Mikhail Saakashvili would
> never dream of launching a massive military attack unless he got explicit
> orders from his bosses at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. After all, Saakashvili
> owes his entire political career to American power-brokers and US
> intelligence agencies. If he disobeyed them, he'd be gone in a fortnight.
> Besides an operation like this takes months of planning and logistical ...
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Author: Bruce OlinBruce Olin Date: Aug 13, 2008 15:28
>
> Bush's war? It's about Russia's intent to lock up the energy from that
> area. One leak had been the Azerbaijan oil that flows via Georgia to the
> Caspian Sea ports, about 2%% of the world's supply. While everyone was
> occupied with the US dollar and the Olympics, and Iran, etc., Putin made a
> grab. They're in control of a lot of the world's energy supply. The US
> doesn't have the power to challenge them in their home turf.
>
Sad but, at least mostly, true... Seems to me like this is the best
argument for a real and genuine alternative energy program, as opposed to a
future of endless oil wars halfway across the world. Russia has the
geographical advantage, and, it can and will argue, the "moral" advantage.
That argument is, of course, as flawed as our own "moral" argument for our
adventures in the Mid East. If we had spent the amount of money that has
gone down the Iraq rat hole on energy research and development, we might be
at the beginning of a new age of energy independence.
Bruce Olin
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Author: RussellTRussellT Date: Aug 13, 2008 18:03
>>
>> Bush's war? It's about Russia's intent to lock up the energy from that
>> area. One leak had been the Azerbaijan oil that flows via Georgia to the
>> Caspian Sea ports, about 2%% of the world's supply. While everyone was
>> occupied with the US dollar and the Olympics, and Iran, etc., Putin made
>> a grab. They're in control of a lot of the world's energy supply. The US
>> doesn't have the power to challenge them in their home turf.
>>
>
> Sad but, at least mostly, true... Seems to me like this is the best
> argument for a real and genuine alternative energy program, as opposed to
> a future of endless oil wars halfway across the world. Russia has the
> geographical advantage, and, it can and will argue, the "moral" advantage.
> That argument is, of course, as flawed as our own "moral" argument for our
> adventures in the Mid East. If we had spent the amount of money that has
> gone down the Iraq rat hole on energy research and development, we might
> be at the beginning of a new age of energy independence.
> ...
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Author: al92653al92653 Date: Aug 13, 2008 23:34
> It is Russia's invasion of the sovereign state of Georgia. Not Bush's war!
>
> Putin is still smarting over the USA & Nato bombing Yugoslavia and conming
> to the aid of Muslims.
>
Georgia wouldn't have had the balls to do what it did without a green light
from US. Looks like President Shitforbrains, made a serious error about
Russian reaction!
> "al92653" xyz.com> wrote in message
> news:rXDok.16493$3l5.11004@newsfe06.iad...>> Bush's War in Georgia
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>> Will it be the Flyswatter or the Blunderbuss?
>>
>> By Mike Whitney
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Author: al92653al92653 Date: Aug 13, 2008 23:37
"RussellT" telus.net> wrote in message
news:aHIok.7359$nu6.1053@edtnps83...> "al92653" xyz.com> wrote in message
> news:rXDok.16493$3l5.11004@newsfe06.iad...>> Bush's War in Georgia
>>
>> Will it be the Flyswatter or the Blunderbuss?
>>
>> By Mike Whitney
>>
>> "I saw bodies lying on the streets, around ruined buildings and in
>> cars. It's impossible to count them now. There's hardly a single building
>> left undamaged." Lyudmila Ostayeva, resident of Tskhinvali, South Ossetia
>>
>>
>> 11/08/08 "ICH" -- - Washington's bloody fingerprints are all over the
>> invasion of South Ossetia. Georgia President Mikhail Saakashvili would
>> never dream of launching a massive military attack unless he got explicit
>> orders from his bosses at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. After all, Saakashvili
>> owes his entire political career to American power-brokers and US ...
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Author: al92653al92653 Date: Aug 13, 2008 23:39
>>
>> Bush's war? It's about Russia's intent to lock up the energy from that
>> area. One leak had been the Azerbaijan oil that flows via Georgia to the
>> Caspian Sea ports, about 2%% of the world's supply. While everyone was
>> occupied with the US dollar and the Olympics, and Iran, etc., Putin made
>> a grab. They're in control of a lot of the world's energy supply. The US
>> doesn't have the power to challenge them in their home turf.
>>
>
> Sad but, at least mostly, true... Seems to me like this is the best
> argument for a real and genuine alternative energy program, as opposed to
> a future of endless oil wars halfway across the world. Russia has the
> geographical advantage, and, it can and will argue, the "moral" advantage.
> That argument is, of course, as flawed as our own "moral" argument for our
> adventures in the Mid East. If we had spent the amount of money that has
> gone down the Iraq rat hole on energy research and development, we might
> be at the beginning of a new age of energy independence.
> ...
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Author: Lamont CranstonLamont Cranston Date: Aug 14, 2008 07:50
Bruce Olin wrote:
>> It is Russia's invasion of the sovereign state of
>> Georgia. Not
>> Bush's war!
>> Putin is still smarting over the USA & Nato bombing
>> Yugoslavia and
>> conming to the aid of Muslims.
>>
>
> Saakashvili seems to have fired first. He's "our" man.
> It seems to
> me like the real question is, did we give him the green
> light? Russia hit back hard. They must believe in the
> "Powell Doctrine".
>
> Bruce Olin
This smells like an early "October Surprise" from the GOP.
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