Mark Earnest wrote:
>>
>> Mark Earnest wrote:
>>>
>>> When Picasso "saw" all of the wondrous things he painted, don't you think
>>> that they had to somehow exist, first?
>>
>> i went out to the Sidewalk art show today
>> it was a beautiful day so it was well worth the walking around
>> the art was not terrible, some of it was ok and some of it actually
>> attracted my eye
>> So guess I was there
>> and so was the art
>> but what the artist saw or did not see when creating the image they put
>> on the paiting is only for us to guess when the artist is inacessible
>> as is Picasso
>
> Knowing the artist's intentions is the whole goal of artists.
> Surely they can make that happen.
and they can also make it happen to purposely obscure the intention
and there are artists who don't know their intention and therefore
can't make it clear
and there are people who aren't appropriately perceptive enough in
spite of the artists attempts
and there are those artists who are dead and whom we now can't ask if
we haven't been perceptive enough
>
>>
>>>
>>> How can he see something that is not there?
>>
>> I don't know if he did or did not. But it is said that art is the
>> representation of light. So he must have seen light.
>> It is often said that what Picasso painted is not something that he saw
>> and nothing that existed outside of his paitings
>
> Every painting is seen before it is put on canvas.
What about that guy Pollock,
he made it clear that the pieces weren't seen before hand but taht they
were placed on the canvas through a sort of accident
he may have planned the movement in advance but he didn't really see
what would be completed before it showed up on the canvas
that was what made his pieces interesting
and there are certainly other artists who do something accidental on
purpose without planning at all what will show up on the canvas,
> And one always sees something.
not always
> Those that said this about Picasso did not know the artist,
> as do all whom appreciate his work, truly know him.
>
i don't understand what that sentence meant
>
>>
>> Nonetheless i am not sure what point you are trying to drive home.
>> Does light exist?
>> Do shadows exist.
>> I don't know
>> But that's what Picasso probably was painting.
>
> The point is that angels probably look similar to the way they are painted,
> in at least one of their states of being.
>
unless of course they hadn't been seen at all and are only imagined
>>
>>>
>>> So when painters through the ages painted the angels we know and love
>>> onto
>>> our consciousnesses, surely they "saw" something.
>>
>> I don't know any painters who painted angels throughout the ages. Can
>> you give some examples
>
> Get an angel book at a bookstore or library.
>Artists love to paint angels.
> One exquisite painter of angels even used to post here.
>
>> I am not aware of a specific painting that Picasso painted that is of
>> an angel.
>> He did paint lots of paintings that had lights and shadow.
>>
>>>
>>> I asked God one time if Jesus looked the way we imagined him, you know,
>>> with
>>> beard, long hair, and all that.
>>>
>>> He said yes.
>>>
>>
>> Why did he lie to you, then?
>
> He never lies.
he most certainly does and he has a sense of humor too, so sometimes
it's not a lie more like teasing.
but yeah he does too lie
on purpose
sometimes because he's in a bad mood
and he forgets that you might do something stupid because of you
believed him
other times he is just ornery
Did you know that god's favorite movie is three stooges in orbit, have
rocket will travel
>
>>
>>> We must not belittle human imagination.
>>> It is often inspired.
>>
>> You are certainly the one belittling it.
>> Not I
>> Picasso the Tuna painted light and shadows of fish that were angels.
>> Picasso painted light and shadows and lots of things, but I don't know
>> enough about his art to tell you whether he painted angels or fish or
>> angel fish.
>> I made up Picasso the Tuna.
>> He is part of my imagination and therefore he paints what I want him to
>> paint
>> His work is inspired, but I am the only one that sees it and it does
>> not exist for you.
>> Unless I choose to share it.
>> But I assure you that he has never painted anything that exists,
>> because I have not yet allowed him to
>> He paints light that to you might look like a fish that could be an
>> angel.
>> But it is my painting.
>> Perhaps some day I will show it to you.
>> Assuming i decide to make it exist.
>
> So an imaginary being in your mind exists that has not yet been allowed to
> paint.
>
> That is a LOT of imagination.
>
> Which is good.
>
> An artist can cause a good many things to happen that has that much control.
> Like the artists that painted angels.
> Their effect went into the distant past.
>
> Maybe the imaginary being can become your artist's brush.
i am not an artist and i can't paint
mk5000
"Keep quiet instead of having the industry buzzin'
Do a devil's advocate style, don't let 'em see you comin'
Use the revolver when bustin' and sluggin'
That way no evidence "--mase, from scratch
