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Author: tinwhistler
Date: Jan 28, 2007 19:10

The coinage of "Phrasedick" appears to go back to Peter Tamony; see:

http://www.umsystem.edu/whmc/invent/3939P.html

Tamony, Peter (1902-1985), Collection, 1890-1985 (C3939)

"...Phrasedick, See Dick..."

William Safire has used it, in combination with "Brigade," in three
different columns in the last six months; see:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/28/magazine/28wwln.safire.t.html?
ref=magazine
[01/28/07/]
The question the Phrasedick Brigade is asking: What inventive
speechwriter, historian or pollster gave Nancy Pelosi that phrase,
brilliantly boosting the hundred days to 100 hours?

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/09/03/news/edsafire.php
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Re: Phrasedick         


Author: tinwhistler
Date: Jan 28, 2007 20:37

On Jan 28, 7:10 pm, "tinwhistler" post.harvard.edu>
wrote:
[snip]
> William Safire has used it, in combination with "Brigade," in three
> different columns in the last six months; see:
[snip]

FWIW, here's a 2003 posting at ADS-L by Fred Shapiro, in which he says
he was called a "phrasedick" in Safire's column:

http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0312A&L=ADS-
L&P=R4643&I=-3
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Re: Phrasedick         


Author: tinwhistler
Date: Jan 28, 2007 20:40

On Jan 28, 8:37 pm, "tinwhistler" post.harvard.edu>
wrote:

Here's a shorter, clickable link:

http://tinyurl.com/2hbyb6
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Re: Phrasedick         


Author: tinwhistler
Date: Jan 28, 2007 20:47

On Jan 28, 8:40 pm, "tinwhistler" post.harvard.edu>
wrote:
>Here's a shorter, clickable link:
[oops, no good]

I'm trying again (this is new to me:)

http://tinyurl.com/3yvpum
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Re: Phrasedick         


Author: cybercypher
Date: Jan 28, 2007 19:58

"tinwhistler" post.harvard.edu> wrote
> "tinwhistler" post.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Here's a shorter, clickable link:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2hbyb6

TinyURL says:
"Error: Unable to find site's URL to redirect to." Try this one:

http://tinyurl.com/3yvpum

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Re: Phrasedick         


Author: Donna Richoux
Date: Jan 29, 2007 05:16

tinwhistler post.harvard.edu> wrote:
> On Jan 28, 8:40 pm, "tinwhistler" post.harvard.edu>
> wrote:
>
>>Here's a shorter, clickable link:
> [oops, no good]
>
>
> I'm trying again (this is new to me:)
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3yvpum

Is the question, how old is "Phrasedick" meaning "etymologist"? I never
heard it, but I can tell that the "dick" meaning "detective" or "police
officer" goes back to at least 1900, according to RHHDAS, which adds
that it probably comes from the Irish-English cant "dicked" meaning
"being watched," such as by a constable or guard.

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Re: Phrasedick         


Author: tinwhistler
Date: Jan 29, 2007 07:31

On Jan 29, 5:16 am, t...@euronet.nl (Donna Richoux) wrote:
[snip]
> Is the question, how old is "Phrasedick" meaning "etymologist"? I never
> heard it, but I can tell that the "dick" meaning "detective" or "police
> officer" goes back to at least 1900, according to RHHDAS, which adds
> that it probably comes from the Irish-English cant "dicked" meaning
> "being watched," such as by a constable or guard.
[snip]

I'm speculating on Safire's extensive use of a seldom-used word,
"phrasedick." Thanks for the insight re the detective sense of
"dick," which I think definitely has a big part in this. The Tamony
posting I linked was just an index to an archive file - I'd really
like some info on what there is in that file on the word "phrasedick"
- but only a real-life etymologist would travel to find out the
answer. Possibly these OED2 senses of "dick" have some bearing:

Dick, n.1

...clever Dick: a clever or smart person; usu. ironical: a 'know-all';
also attrib.
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Re: Phrasedick         


Author: Maria
Date: Jan 29, 2007 07:44

tinwhistler wrote:
>
> I'm speculating on Safire's extensive use of a seldom-used word,
> "phrasedick." [...]

After noting this thread and reading, quickly, a few of the posts
therein, it has finally dawned on me that the word is "phrasedick," and
not "phasedick" as I'd been thinking heretofore.

That little 'r' makes a difference if one just notices it.



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