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Date: May 13, 2010 16:11
John O'Flaherty wrote:
> On Wed, 12 May 2010 21:53:56 -0700 (PDT), Jared gmail.com>
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> >> On May 12, 7:06 pm, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>> Mike Lyle wrote:
>>>> One of the things I'm most cranky (in both British and Australian
>>>> senses) about is the compulsory overdoses of sugar and salt in the
>>>> national diet.
>> I'm rather unclear on whether "sodium" on a label is the same as
>> sodium chloride, aka table salt.
>> Either in the department of taste or health consequences. Certainly
>> people remark often that the sodium levels are higher than you would
>> expect from the taste in premade food, so is it in fact "salt"?
>
> Once it's dissolved it's just ions, so if it says sodium anything, you
> get sodium ions, the same as from table salt. The chloride...
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Author: Evan KirshenbaumEvan Kirshenbaum Date: May 13, 2010 17:34
Peter Moylan writes:
> Watch out for the iodide ions, though. Chloride ions don't have a
> huge effect on us, as far as I know, but iodised salt can be a
> danger to your thyroid.
Which is ironic, as iodine was, I believe, added to salt to combat
goiter.
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Author: Leslie DanksLeslie Danks Date: May 13, 2010 19:15
Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
> Peter Moylan writes:
>
>> Watch out for the iodide ions, though. Chloride ions don't have a
>> huge effect on us, as far as I know, but iodised salt can be a
>> danger to your thyroid.
>
> Which is ironic, as iodine was, I believe, added to salt to combat
> goiter.
It still is (as iodide), and iodine deficiency is a far more common cause of
problems than is iodine excess:
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine_deficiency>
"Iodine is an essential trace element; the thyroid hormones thyroxine and
triiodotyronine contain iodine. In areas where there is little iodine in
the diet—typically remote inland areas where no marine foods are eaten
iodine deficiency gives rise to goiter (so-called endemic goiter), as well
as cretinism, which results in developmental delays and other health
problems."
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Author: Robert BannisterRobert Bannister Date: May 14, 2010 02:30
Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
> Peter Moylan writes:
>
>> Watch out for the iodide ions, though. Chloride ions don't have a
>> huge effect on us, as far as I know, but iodised salt can be a
>> danger to your thyroid.
>
> Which is ironic, as iodine was, I believe, added to salt to combat
> goiter.
>
My feeling too. I thought it was the lack of iodine that was a problem.
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Author: Richard BollardRichard Bollard Date: May 14, 2010 05:18
On Thu, 13 May 2010 08:34:15 -0700, Evan Kirshenbaum
hpl.hp.com> wrote:
>Peter Moylan writes:
>
>> Watch out for the iodide ions, though. Chloride ions don't have a
>> huge effect on us, as far as I know, but iodised salt can be a
>> danger to your thyroid.
>
>Which is ironic, as iodine was, I believe, added to salt to combat
>goiter.
Yes, and there has been much fuss recently about people eating all
kinds of designer salt and missing out on it to the peril of their
thyroids. Some have suggested adding a smidge of iodised stuff to
foods to help in this regard.
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Richard Bollard
Canberra Australia
To email, I'm at AMT not spAMT.
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Author: JaredJared Date: May 14, 2010 06:31
On May 13, 11:18 pm, Richard Bollard spamt.edu.au> wrote:> On Thu, 13 May 2010 08:34:15 -0700, Evan Kirshenbaum
>
> hpl.hp.com> wrote:>>Peter Moylan writes:
>
>>> Watch out for the iodide ions, though. Chloride ions don't have a
>>> huge effect on us, as far as I know, but iodised salt can be a
>>> danger to your thyroid.
>
>>Which is ironic, as iodine was, I believe, added to salt to combat
>>goiter.
>
> Yes, and there has been much fuss recently about people eating all
> kinds of designer salt and missing out on it to the peril of their
> thyroids. Some have suggested adding a smidge of iodised stuff to
> foods to help in this regard.
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Author: the Omrudthe Omrud Date: May 14, 2010 09:47
On 14/05/2010 04:18, Lewis wrote:
>> Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
>>> Peter Moylan writes:
>>>
>>>> Watch out for the iodide ions, though. Chloride ions don't have a
>>>> huge effect on us, as far as I know, but iodised salt can be a
>>>> danger to your thyroid.
>>>
>>> Which is ironic, as iodine was, I believe, added to salt to combat
>>> goiter.
>>>
>
>> My feeling too. I thought it was the lack of iodine that was a problem.
>
> The Greeks had it right, all things in moderation.
This saying has never made any sense to me. There are plenty of things
you should not use under any circumstances. Heroin, for example.
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Author: James HoggJames Hogg Date: May 14, 2010 10:45
the Omrud wrote:
> On 14/05/2010 04:18, Lewis wrote:
>>> Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
>>>> Peter Moylan writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Watch out for the iodide ions, though. Chloride ions don't have a
>>>>> huge effect on us, as far as I know, but iodised salt can be a
>>>>> danger to your thyroid.
>>>>
>>>> Which is ironic, as iodine was, I believe, added to salt to combat
>>>> goiter.
>>>>
>>
>>> My feeling too. I thought it was the lack of iodine that was a problem.
>>
>> The Greeks had it right, all things in moderation.
>
> This saying has never made any sense to me. There are plenty of things ...
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Author: the Omrudthe Omrud Date: May 14, 2010 11:49
On 14/05/2010 09:45, James Hogg wrote:
> the Omrud wrote:
>> On 14/05/2010 04:18, Lewis wrote:
>>>> Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
>>>>> Peter Moylan writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Watch out for the iodide ions, though. Chloride ions don't have a
>>>>>> huge effect on us, as far as I know, but iodised salt can be a
>>>>>> danger to your thyroid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is ironic, as iodine was, I believe, added to salt to combat
>>>>> goiter.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> My feeling too. I thought it was the lack of iodine that was a problem.
>>>
>>> The Greeks had it right, all things in moderation.
>> ...
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Author: James HoggJames Hogg Date: May 14, 2010 11:59
the Omrud wrote:
> On 14/05/2010 09:45, James Hogg wrote:
>> the Omrud wrote:
>>> On 14/05/2010 04:18, Lewis wrote:
>>>> In message<853jsnFdkpU2@ mid.individual.net> Robert Bannister
>>>> bigpond.com> wrote:>>>>> Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
>>>>>> Peter Moylan writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Watch out for the iodide ions, though. Chloride ions don't have a
>>>>>>> huge effect on us, as far as I know, but iodised salt can be a
>>>>>>> danger to your thyroid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which is ironic, as iodine was, I believe, added to salt to combat
>>>>>> goiter.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> My feeling too. I thought it was the lack of iodine that was a
>>>>> problem.
>>>> ...
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