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Author: xahlee
Date: Apr 29, 2008 01:02

In the song “Don't Cry For Me Argentina” (of the musical Evita fame),
the lyrics has this section:

«
You won't believe me
All you will see is a girl you once knew
Although she's dressed up to the nines
At sixes and sevens with you
»

What does the nines, sixes, and sevens, mean?

Thanks.

youtube vid and full lyrics here:
http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/sanga_pemci/dont_cry_for_me_argentina.html

Xah
xah@xahlee.org
http://xahlee.org/

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Author: Leslie Danks
Date: Apr 29, 2008 01:26

xahlee@gmail.com wrote:
> In the song ?Don't Cry For Me Argentina? (of the musical Evita fame),
> the lyrics has this section:
>
> «
> You won't believe me
> All you will see is a girl you once knew
> Although she's dressed up to the nines
> At sixes and sevens with you
> »
>
> What does the nines, sixes, and sevens, mean?

"Dressed up to the nines" means dressed as beaautifully, elegantly and
smartly as possible. Alternatives are "dressed to kill" and "dressed up
like a dog's dinner".

"At sixes and sevens" means being in a state of confusion, mental
disorder, not being quite in control of oneself. In the song, the singer
is in the early stages of the mental disorder known as "being in love
with" the person she's addressing the song to.
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Author: Alan Hope
Date: Apr 29, 2008 03:28

xahlee@gmail.com goes:
>In the song “Don't Cry For Me Argentina” (of the musical Evita fame),
>the lyrics has this section:

>You won't believe me
>All you will see is a girl you once knew
>Although she's dressed up to the nines
>At sixes and sevens with you
>What does the nines, sixes, and sevens, mean?

It means Tim Rice is the worst lyricist the world has ever seen. He's
writing this tragic song for a tragic heroine, right, and he sticks in
an utterly fucking imbecilic little joke with two expressions that
both contain numbers.

He thinks it's clever!

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Author: Boggles The Brain
Date: Apr 29, 2008 04:27

On Apr 29, 5:28 am, Alan Hope gmail.com> wrote:
> xah...@gmail.com goes:
>
>>In the song “Don't Cry For Me Argentina” (of the musical Evita fame),
>>the lyrics has this section:
>>«
>>You won't believe me
>>All you will see is a girl you once knew
>>Although she's dressed up to the nines
>>At sixes and sevens with you
>>»
>>What does the nines, sixes, and sevens, mean?
>
> It means Tim Rice is the worst lyricist the world has ever seen. He's
> writing this tragic song for a tragic heroine, right, and he sticks in
> an utterly fucking imbecilic little joke with two expressions that
> both contain numbers.
>
> He thinks it's clever!
> ...
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Author: tony cooper
Date: Apr 29, 2008 06:23

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:26:07 +0200, Leslie Danks
wrote:
>xahlee@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> In the song ?Don't Cry For Me Argentina? (of the musical Evita fame),
>> the lyrics has this section:
>>
>> «
>> You won't believe me
>> All you will see is a girl you once knew
>> Although she's dressed up to the nines
>> At sixes and sevens with you
>> »
>>
>> What does the nines, sixes, and sevens, mean?
>
>"Dressed up to the nines" means dressed as beaautifully, elegantly and
>smartly as possible. Alternatives are "dressed to kill" and "dressed up
>like a dog's dinner".
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Re: don't cry for me Argentina         


Author: John Dean
Date: Apr 29, 2008 06:31

Leslie Danks wrote:
> xahlee@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> In the song ?Don't Cry For Me Argentina? (of the musical Evita fame),
>> the lyrics has this section:
>>
>>
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Author: John Dean
Date: Apr 29, 2008 06:32

tony cooper wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:26:07 +0200, Leslie Danks
> wrote:
>
>> xahlee@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> In the song ?Don't Cry For Me Argentina? (of the musical Evita
>>> fame), the lyrics has this section:
>>>
>>>
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Re: don't cry for me Argentina         


Author: Leslie Danks
Date: Apr 29, 2008 06:39

John Dean wrote:
> Leslie Danks wrote:

[...]
>> "At sixes and sevens" means being in a state of confusion, mental
>> disorder, not being quite in control of oneself. In the song, the
>> singer is in the early stages of the mental disorder known as "being
>> in love with" the person she's addressing the song to.
>
> Although it's not actually a person.

OK, but personified in the song, oder?

--
Les
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Re: don't cry for me Argentina         


Author: Leslie Danks
Date: Apr 29, 2008 06:48

tony cooper wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:26:07 +0200, Leslie Danks
> wrote:

[...]
>>"Dressed up to the nines" means dressed as beaautifully, elegantly and
>>smartly as possible. Alternatives are "dressed to kill" and "dressed up
>>like a dog's dinner".
>
> I agree that "dressed up to the nines" means well dressed, but
> anything with "the dog's dinner" in it doesn't sound good to me.

Nonetheless -- as John Dean has already pointed out -- "_a_ dog's dinner"
is complimentary used in this idiom (though not without ironical
undertones).
> I'm
> more familiar with "the dog's breakfast",

"Looks like a dog's breakfast" is certainly negative.
> but I don't think the dog's
> dinner is any more attractive.

Perhaps you should stop economising on dog food.
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Author: tony cooper
Date: Apr 29, 2008 06:51

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:32:41 +0100, "John Dean"
fraglineone.net> wrote:
>tony cooper wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:26:07 +0200, Leslie Danks
>> wrote:
>>
>>> xahlee@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> In the song ?Don't Cry For Me Argentina? (of the musical...
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