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Author: donmacleandonmaclean Date: Jun 12, 2008 03:03
While I think I know what constitutes an anachronism I would like to
know if there is a term for an object out of time and out of place;
e.g., an author having a character eating an ear of corn in Rome in 50
A.D.,or having a 19th century English character looking for gophers in
England.Help appreciated-to retain my shaky reputation as an English
speaker.
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Author: HVSHVS Date: Jun 12, 2008 03:18
On 12 Jun 2008, wrote
> While I think I know what constitutes an anachronism I would
> like to know if there is a term for an object out of time and
> out of place; e.g., an author having a character eating an ear
> of corn in Rome in 50 A.D.,or having a 19th century English
> character looking for gophers in England.Help appreciated-to
> retain my shaky reputation as an English speaker.
AFAIK, those are excellent examples of anachronisms, as the
disjunctions are time-dependent.
I don't know the term for non-temporal examples
-- like having a
character stepping out of the Ritz and getting hit by a No. 4 bus.
--
Cheers, Harvey
CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed
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Author: the Omrudthe Omrud Date: Jun 12, 2008 03:31
HVS wrote:
> On 12 Jun 2008, wrote
>
>> While I think I know what constitutes an anachronism I would
>> like to know if there is a term for an object out of time and
>> out of place; e.g., an author having a character eating an ear
>> of corn in Rome in 50 A.D.,or having a 19th century English
>> character looking for gophers in England.Help appreciated-to
>> retain my shaky reputation as an English speaker.
>
> AFAIK, those are excellent examples of anachronisms, as the
> disjunctions are time-dependent.
At which time were there/will there be gophers in England? Although
"looking for a gopher" is possible at any time, I suppose. Like looking
for a skunk in Paris.
--
David
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Author: HVSHVS Date: Jun 12, 2008 03:42
On 12 Jun 2008, the Omrud wrote
> HVS wrote:
>> On 12 Jun 2008, wrote
>>
>>> While I think I know what constitutes an anachronism I would
>>> like to know if there is a term for an object out of time and
>>> out of place; e.g., an author having a character eating an ear
>>> of corn in Rome in 50 A.D.,or having a 19th century English
>>> character looking for gophers in England.Help appreciated-to
>>> retain my shaky reputation as an English speaker.
>>
>> AFAIK, those are excellent examples of anachronisms, as the
>> disjunctions are time-dependent.
>
> At which time were there/will there be gophers in England?
> Although "looking for a gopher" is possible at any time, I
> suppose. Like looking for a skunk in Paris.
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Author: mbmb Date: Jun 12, 2008 04:29
On Jun 12, 3:31Â am, the Omrud
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> At which time were there/will there be gophers in England? Â
Remember the turkey?
Not a bad idea for my next trip.
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Author: the Omrudthe Omrud Date: Jun 12, 2008 04:32
HVS wrote:
> On 12 Jun 2008, the Omrud wrote
>
>> HVS wrote:
>>> On 12 Jun 2008, wrote
>>>
>>>> While I think I know what constitutes an anachronism I would
>>>> like to know if there is a term for an object out of time and
>>>> out of place; e.g., an author having a character eating an ear
>>>> of corn in Rome in 50 A.D.,or having a 19th century English
>>>> character looking for gophers in England.Help appreciated-to
>>>> retain my shaky reputation as an English speaker.
>>> AFAIK, those are excellent examples of anachronisms, as the
>>> disjunctions are time-dependent.
>> At which time were there/will there be gophers in England?
>> Although "looking for a gopher" is possible at any time, I
>> suppose. Like looking for a skunk in Paris.
>
> I think I assumed that gophers had probably been brought over and
> escaped -- like grey squirrels, and New Zealand flatworms, and ...
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Author: the Omrudthe Omrud Date: Jun 12, 2008 04:37
mb wrote:
> On Jun 12, 3:31 am, the Omrud
> ...
>> At which time were there/will there be gophers in England?
>
> Remember the turkey?
I remember them, but I don't believe there are any wild turkeys in Europe.
> Not a bad idea for my next trip.
Make sure you get a good stuffing.
--
David
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Author: HVSHVS Date: Jun 12, 2008 04:40
On 12 Jun 2008, the Omrud wrote
> HVS wrote:
>> On 12 Jun 2008, the Omrud wrote
>>
>>> HVS wrote:
>>>> On 12 Jun 2008, wrote
>>>>
>>>>> While I think I know what constitutes an anachronism I would
>>>>> like to know if there is a...
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Author: J. J. LodderJ. J. Lodder Date: Jun 12, 2008 04:42
HVS REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> wrote:
> On 12 Jun 2008, wrote
>
>> While I think I know what constitutes an anachronism I would
>> like to know if there is a term for an object out of time and
>> out of place; e.g., an author having a character eating an ear
>> of corn in Rome in 50 A.D.,or having a 19th century English
>> character looking for gophers in England.Help appreciated-to
>> retain my shaky reputation as an English speaker.
>
> AFAIK, those are excellent examples of anachronisms, as the
> disjunctions are time-dependent.
>
> I don't know the term for non-temporal examples -- like having a
> character stepping out of the Ritz and getting hit by a No. 4 bus.
A pity that 'dislocation' has already been claimed for other meanings,
Jan
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Author: the Omrudthe Omrud Date: Jun 12, 2008 04:51
HVS wrote:
> On 12 Jun 2008, the Omrud wrote
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>> HVS wrote:
>>> On 12 Jun 2008, the Omrud wrote
>>>
>>>> HVS wrote:
>>>>> On 12 Jun 2008, wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> While I think I know what constitutes an anachronism I would
>>>>>> like to know if there is a term for an object out of time
>>>>>> and out of place; e.g., an author having a character eating
>>>>>> an ear of corn in Rome in 50 A.D.,or having a 19th century
>>>>>> English character looking for gophers in England.Help
>>>>>> appreciated-to retain my shaky reputation as an English
>>>>>> speaker.
>>>>> AFAIK, those are excellent examples of anachronisms, as the
>>>>> disjunctions are time-dependent.
>>>> At which time were there/will there be gophers in England?
>>>> Although "looking for a gopher" is possible at any time, I ...
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