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Author: Arbitrar Of QualityArbitrar Of Quality Date: Dec 15, 2006 00:25
A reminder: Please avoid spoilers for later episodes in these review
threads.
ANGEL
Season Four, Episode 6: "Spin The Bottle"
(or "I got a fever, and the only prescription is more amnesia!")
Writer: Joss Whedon
Director: Joss Whedon
Some people get on my case when I refer to Joss Whedon Art Projects;
episodes that experiment with slightly or seriously unconventional
storytelling or presentation. Because, you know, it's so, so,
demeaning...
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Author: mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des angesmariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges Date: Dec 15, 2006 00:48
> Season Four, Episode 6: "Spin The Bottle"
> (or "I got a fever, and the only prescription is more amnesia!")
this was in part from a desire to do another wesley doofus show
since wesley as a klutz majes whedon laugh
currently wesley cannot do that
and they dont have a time amchine
so they played spin the bottle
> Lorne tells this story through occasional very conversational
> narrations, speaking to an unseen but audible small audience that can
you do catch that there actually was no audience?
> basically stand in for the viewer. One thing that seems unusual is
> that he may not be addressing us from shortly after the end of the
> episode, as would be traditional for TV. To the very end, he's
one of the returns from black has lorne commenting on the commercial
that wouldve been shown on original tv
> Connor's unaffected throughout the episode, and apparently his time
> with Cordelia has made him strongly interested in getting himself
> deflowered. Unfortunately, L.A.'s surviving hooker community shows
> even more insistence on ignoring the supernatural than everyone else.
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Author: djsosonutdjsosonut Date: Dec 15, 2006 02:43
Arbitrar Of Quality wrote:
But the JWAPs we've seen more recently on ATS
> don't have that same driving force, seeming more content to let the
> unusualness be its own reward, the main purpose for the episode's
> existence. "Waiting In The Wings" was that way, and to a lesser
> extent, so is STB. This is a stylish episode, but nothing happens!
> Well, there's the end, but that's a few minutes of plot and forty
> minutes of other stuff. Some of it works and some of it doesn't, but
> I'm a little confused by what it's there for, what exactly it's
> trying to accomplish.
On the JWAP front I just decide to come down on the side that says JW
is smarter than me. Not that I think everything he does is perfect
(Happy Anniversary murders that idea for me), but that if you care to
look there is more to his episodes than the norm.
In "Spin the Bottle" I like the comedy and character exploration
(not to be confused with character development). And since the comedy
mostly works for me it doesn't knock me out of the moment.
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Author: MelMel Date: Dec 15, 2006 02:50
Arbitrar Of Quality wrote:
>
> So...
>
> One-sentence summary: Weird.
>
This, for me, was the key episode I missed while managing to see most of
the rest out of order. It will probably make more sense to you after
you've finished season 4.
But here's a question for you to ponder in the meantime...
Why did Cordelia smash the bottle?
Mel
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Author: George W HarrisGeorge W Harris Date: Dec 15, 2006 06:30
On 14 Dec 2006 15:25:07 -0800, "Arbitrar Of Quality"
wildmail.com> wrote:
:Well, there's the end, but that's a few minutes of plot and forty
:minutes of other stuff. Some of it works and some of it doesn't, but
:I'm a little confused by what it's there for, what exactly it's
:trying to accomplish.
In the commentary Joss Whedon and Alexis
Denisof say this episode owes its existance to their
desire for the return of dorky slapstick Wesley from
Buffy S3.
--
"I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar." -Wash, 'Serenity'
George W. Harris For actual email address, replace each 'u' with an 'i'
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Author: jillunjillun Date: Dec 15, 2006 06:38
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges wrote:
> she moved through time and saw all things angelus did
> all of them
> she now looks at angels face and sees angelus and she cannot forget
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ernfba vf fb gung fur pna pbagvahr gb trg Pbaare nyy jenccrq nebhaq ure
yvggyr svatre, orpnhfr uvf fjvzzref pna znxr onovrf naq Natry'f pna'g
(ab, Pbaare qbrfa'g pbhag fvapr ur'f zbfg yvxryl (VZB) gur erfhyg bs
jvaavat n yvsr va gur Gevny).
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Author: ApteryxApteryx Date: Dec 15, 2006 11:18
>A reminder: Please avoid spoilers for later episodes in these review
> threads.
> minutes of other stuff. Some of it works and some of it doesn't, but
> I'm a little confused by what it's there for, what exactly it's
> trying to accomplish.
I think I can help you there - it's trying to entertain
> to be done. The tension related to what happened last episode gives
> the early scenes that great quiet intensity I sometimes rave about, as
> neatly summed up by Lorne: "I didn't know that a couple hours ago,
> Fred had tried to kill her evil professor by opening a portal. Gunn
> didn't know that Wesley had helped her. And Wesley didn't know Gunn
> had killed the guy himself to save Fred from becoming a killer. And
> Fred didn't know that Gunn was right then figuring out that Wesley had
> helped her try. So, you can see, I didn't have all the facts when I
> started this."
Great visuals on those lines as well
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Author: ElisiElisi Date: Dec 15, 2006 11:48
Arbitrar Of Quality wrote:
> A reminder: Please avoid spoilers for later episodes in these review
> threads.
>
>
> ANGEL
> Season Four, Episode 6: "Spin The Bottle"
> (or "I got a fever, and the only prescription is more amnesia!")
> Writer: Joss Whedon
> Director: Joss Whedon
> This is a stylish episode, but nothing happens!
> Well, there's the end, but that's a few minutes of plot and forty
> minutes of other stuff. Some of it works and some of it doesn't, but
> I'm a little confused by what it's there for, what exactly it's
> trying to accomplish.
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Author: bookwormbookworm Date: Dec 15, 2006 14:25
> How can you not find "The government gave me bad hair?" hilarious? And
> it's yet another shout out to the viewers who complained *a lot* about
> Cordy's hair... And it's also an integral part of Old!Cordy. Remember
> 'The Puppet Show'?
>
> Cordelia: Uhhh, what?
> Giles: Oh! I'm sorry. Um, your hair, uh...
> Cordelia: There's something wrong with my hair? (pulls it behind her
> ears)
> Giles remains silent, but continues to stare.
> Cordelia: Ohmigod! (quickly leaves)
> Giles: (to himself) Xander was right. It worked like a charm.
>
>> 2) Liam's warning about the demons outside.
>
> I've talked about that already. It's FUNNY! His face...
>
and 1.10 ("nightmares"): cordy's nightmare about bad hair.
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Author: George W HarrisGeorge W Harris Date: Dec 15, 2006 15:05
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 23:18:07 +1300, "Apteryx" xtra.co.nz>
wrote:
:Certainly it is AtS's re-run of TR, but I rate it a little bit better than
:the BtVS original. Mainly because it doesn't have a shark, but also because
:I think it its just a little bit funnier - especially everything with Wes or
:Fred.
Also:
(Angel runs into room)
Angel: I'm invisible!
Cordy: No, you're not.
(Angel pauses, runs back out of room)
--
Doesn't the fact that there are *exactly* 50 states seem a little suspicious?
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