On Feb 12, 1:09 pm, alphakitten
netscape.net> wrote:>> On Feb 12, 12:23 am, alphakitten
netscape.net> wrote:>
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>>>>On Feb 11, 4:58 pm, alphakitten
netscape.net> wrote:>
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>>>>>>On Feb 11, 11:11 am, "Arbitrar Of Quality"
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>>>>>>>>And here we get independent confirmation that Spike did, indeed, save
>>>>>>>>the world. Independent confirmation that he, with his amulet ex
>>>>>>>>machina, was the one who destroyed the Ubervamp army in "Chosen," not
>>>>>>>>the Slayers, as some people around here have tried to claim.
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>>>>>>>It was a collaborative effort. The Slayers fought back the attacking
>>>>>>>army, and Spike closed the Hellmouth for good. I think they all
>>>>>>>deserve full world-saving credit.
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>>>>>>>Participating in this discussion one last time, I'm sorry that
>>>>>>>"Chosen" wasn't successful in converying what it was going for to
>>>>>>>everyone. It's clear to me on that count, at least.
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>>>>>>>SPIKE: No, you've beat them back. It's for me to do the cleanup.
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>>>>>>And, again, if all Spike did was cleanup, he wouldn't get credit from
>>>>>>higher powers for saving the world.
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>>>>>>I can sort of see being fuzzy about what happened in "Chosen" (though
>>>>>>it was always perfectly clear to me - the Slayers only killed 50 or so
>>>>>>Ubervamps out of thousands), but here, it's clear and unambiguous.
>>>>>>Spike saved the world. Therefore, Spike destroyed the Ubervamp army.
>>>>>>Not the Slayers.
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>>>>>For the 948th time, it was only on account of the slayer army that Spike
>>>>>got to do the clean up. Like AoQ said, it was collaborative, clearly and
>>>>>unambiguously so.
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>>>>For the 949th time, it was clearly and unambiguously *not*
>>>>collaborative in any way.
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>>>Except for the part where the slayer army are what keeps Spike alive
>>>long enough for the clean up to begin. Collaborative, see?
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>> Except for the part where the Slayer army wasn't needed at all.
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> Except for the part where they keep him alive for ten minutes before the
> amulet does it's thing.
Except for the part where that wasn't at all necessary.
>> Again, there's no mention of Spike *helping* to save the world as part
>> of a collaborative effort. What's said here is that Spike saved the
>> world. Period. It's said multiple times and it's never challenged.
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> You don't have much of an attention span, do you Burt?
*yawn*
