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Author: Ken McElhaneyKen McElhaney Date: Dec 4, 2007 12:14
On Dec 4, 1:34 pm, UCLAN thanks.org> wrote:> Ken McElhaney wrote:
>>>Perhaps, but both of Missouri's losses were to the same team (OK), the
>>>caliber of which Kansas didn't play all year. NONE of Kansas' victories
>>>were against Top 25 teams, and they lost at home versus the only Top 25
>>>team that they played all year - MISSOURI.
>
>> Well, technically the game was on a neutral site (Kansas City -
>> Arrowhead Stadium), but it's close enough to Lawrence I suppose, so I
>> ain't gonna argue it.
>
> Seeing overwhelmingly Kansas colors in the stands left little doubt as
> to which team was playing at home.
By that definition, every game played at Chapman Stadium is Tulsa is a
"home" game for the visiting team...:)
Kansas/Missouri is a rather fierce rivalry going back to 1856 when
they used firearms, not football teams against each other. So the hate
is long 'n deep which tends to motivate the "visiting" team.
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Author: Ken McElhaneyKen McElhaney Date: Dec 5, 2007 20:04
On Dec 5, 2:23 pm, UCLAN thanks.org> wrote:> Ken McElhaney wrote:
>>>Seeing overwhelmingly Kansas colors in the stands left little doubt as
>>>to which team was playing at home.
>
>> By that definition, every game played at Chapman Stadium is Tulsa is a
>> "home" game for the visiting team...:)
>
> Oh, puleeze. Seeing Kansas in their home Kansas Blue uniforms, and seeing
> the sea of Kansas Blue in the stands didn't provide a clue?
Again, if your definition of "home game" is "most fans of one team" at
the game, then it's a "home game". If location has anything to do
with it, then the fact that the stadium is in Missouri and is not
normally used by Kansas, at best it's a home game with a big twist.
But technically speaking, Kansas was the designated "home" team just
as OU/Texas trade "home" designations when they play in the Cotton
Bowl every year (the stadium, not the "bowl" game)
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Author: azurespiritazurespirit Date: Dec 5, 2007 21:57
> On Dec 5, 2:23 pm, UCLAN thanks.org> wrote:>> Ken McElhaney wrote:
>>>>Seeing overwhelmingly Kansas colors in the stands left little doubt as
>>>>to which team was playing at home.
>>
>>> By that definition, every game played at Chapman Stadium is Tulsa is a
>>> "home" game for the visiting team...:)
>>
>> Oh, puleeze. Seeing Kansas in their home Kansas Blue uniforms, and seeing
>> the sea of Kansas Blue in the stands didn't provide a clue?
>
> Again, if your definition of "home game" is "most fans of one team" at
> the game, then it's a "home game". If location has anything to do
> with it, then the fact that the stadium is in Missouri and is not
> normally used by Kansas, at best it's a home game with a big twist.
> But technically speaking, Kansas was the designated "home" team just
> as OU/Texas trade "home" designations when they play in the Cotton
> Bowl every year (the stadium, not the "bowl" game) ...
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Author: Ken McElhaneyKen McElhaney Date: Dec 6, 2007 06:54
On Dec 6, 3:01 am, UCLAN thanks.org> wrote:> Ken McElhaney wrote:
>>>Oh, puleeze. Seeing Kansas in their home Kansas Blue uniforms, and seeing
>>>the sea of Kansas Blue in the stands didn't provide a clue?
>
>> Again, if your definition of "home game" is "most fans of one team" at
>> the game, then it's a "home game".
>
> Kansas wore the home "colored" uniforms, Missouri wore away uniforms.
> The stadium is infinitely closer to KU than it is to Missouri (the school.)
> The stadium was full of fans dressed in Kansas Blue.
You keep chopping out the fact that this was a rivalry game with a
long history played on a neutral site. It was not a TRUE home game for
Kansas just as it was not a TRUE home game for Texas playing OU this
year despite Texas wearing the "home" colors.
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Author: Ken McElhaneyKen McElhaney Date: Dec 6, 2007 07:02
On Dec 5, 11:57 pm, "azurespirit" hotmail.com> wrote:> "Ken McElhaney" hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Ohio State's "best" win was against three-loss Michigan (Wisconsin was
>> at home) & they lost to Illinois at HOME. LSU lost twice in OT, but
>> the one against four-loss Arkansas was at HOME.
>
> Well, Michigan *WAS* ranked #1 going into the season.
Actually, Michigan was ranked #5 going into the season and showed
right off that they didn't deserved it by getting beat by a lower
division team. Until then, no top 5 team had ever lost to a AA school
and this happened at Michigan.
> You have to admit that
> this has been a really exciting NCAA season to watch. It will be hard for
> some of the bowl games to beat some of the regular season games.
It's certainly been the wildest season I can remember with so many top
teams falling out seemingly every week.
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Author: UCLANUCLAN Date: Dec 6, 2007 12:03
Ken McElhaney wrote:
>>>>Oh, puleeze. Seeing Kansas in their home Kansas Blue uniforms, and seeing
>>>>the sea of Kansas Blue in the stands didn't provide a clue?
>>
>>>Again, if your definition of "home game" is "most fans of one team" at
>>>the game, then it's a "home game".
>>
>>Kansas wore the home "colored" uniforms, Missouri wore away uniforms.
>>The stadium is infinitely closer to KU than it is to Missouri (the school.)
>>The stadium was full of fans dressed in Kansas Blue.
>
> You keep chopping out the fact that this was a rivalry game with a
> long history played on a neutral site.
Because it's irrelevant. Kansas was the home team, both technically, and
in terms of fan support and stadium proximity.
> It was not a TRUE home game for
> Kansas just as it was not a TRUE home game for Texas playing OU this
> year despite Texas wearing the "home" colors.
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Author: Ken McElhaneyKen McElhaney Date: Dec 6, 2007 12:40
On Dec 6, 2:03 pm, UCLAN thanks.org> wrote:> Ken McElhaney wrote:
>>>>>Oh, puleeze. Seeing Kansas in their home Kansas Blue uniforms, and seeing
>>>>>the sea of Kansas Blue in the stands didn't provide a clue?
>
>>>>Again, if your definition of "home game" is "most fans of one team" at
>>>>the game, then it's a "home game".
>
>>>Kansas wore the home "colored" uniforms, Missouri wore away uniforms.
>>>The stadium is infinitely closer to KU than it is to Missouri (the school.)
>>>The stadium was full of fans dressed in Kansas Blue.
>
>> You keep chopping out the fact that this was a rivalry game with a
>> long history played on a neutral site.
>
> Because it's irrelevant.
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Author: azurespiritazurespirit Date: Dec 7, 2007 00:13
> On Dec 5, 11:57 pm, "azurespirit" hotmail.com> wrote:>> "Ken McElhaney" hotmail.com> wrote in message>
> (stuff snipped)
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>>> Ohio State's "best" win was against three-loss Michigan (Wisconsin was
>>> at home) & they lost to Illinois at HOME. LSU lost twice in OT, but
>>> the one against four-loss Arkansas was at HOME.
>>
>> Well, Michigan *WAS* ranked #1 going into the season.
>
>
> Actually, Michigan was ranked #5 going into the season and showed
> right off that they didn't deserved it by getting beat by a lower
> division team. Until then, no top 5 team had ever lost to a AA school
> and this happened at Michigan.
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Author: Ken McElhaneyKen McElhaney Date: Dec 7, 2007 19:11
On Dec 7, 7:10 pm, "azurespirit" hotmail.com> wrote:>> On Dec 7, 2:13 am, "azurespirit" hotmail.com> wrote:>>> "Ken McElhaney" hotmail.com> wrote in message>
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>>>> On Dec 5, 11:57 pm, "azurespirit" hotmail.com> wrote:>>>>> "Ken McElhaney" hotmail.com> wrote in message>
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>>> Thanks, I could have looked it up. In the "old days", we used to play in
>>> the
>>> "California Bowl"....usually against Fresno State. ...
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Author: azurespiritazurespirit Date: Dec 7, 2007 19:33
> On Dec 7, 7:10 pm, "azurespirit" hotmail.com> wrote:>>> On Dec 7, 2:13 am, "azurespirit" hotmail.com> wrote:>>>> "Ken McElhaney" hotmail.com> wrote in message>>
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>>>>> On Dec 5, 11:57 pm, "azurespirit" hotmail.com> wrote:>>>>>> "Ken McElhaney" hotmail.com> wrote in message>>
>>>>> (stuff snipped)
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>> ***more snipped***
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>>>> Thanks, I could have looked it up. In the "old days", we used to play ...
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