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Author: Steven L.Steven L. Date: Oct 27, 2007 20:07
Winning hearts, minds begins with WGA's own
By Ray Richmond
Oct 26, 2007
I know there are big complex issues dividing the Writers Guild of
America and the Alliance of Motion Picture & Television Producers in
advance of Wednesday's contract deadline that might result in a walkout
by WGA membership. But before things veer out of control, allow me to
reduce this to its simplest essence.
If you have no writers, you have no film. Or TV series. Or miniseries.
You also don't have a "reality" series, the ridiculous notion that those
aren't at least partially scripted notwithstanding. If producers insist
on keeping those projects non-WGA, then I'm wondering if they might at
least agree to sign a stipulation to the effect that no one on the shows
ever were made to do or say anything based on an instruction read off of
a piece of paper or computer monitor. Methinks not.
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Author: Rob JensenRob Jensen Date: Oct 28, 2007 13:59
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:07:03 -0400, "Steven L."
earthlink.net> wrote:
>Winning hearts, minds begins with WGA's own
>By Ray Richmond
>
>Oct 26, 2007
>I know there are big complex issues dividing the Writers Guild of
>America and the Alliance of Motion Picture & Television...
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Author: ObveeusObveeus Date: Oct 28, 2007 16:04
"Rob Jensen" aol.com> wrote:> Also, some of the possible reality shows waiting in the wings are
> sooooo bad (the CW's farmer dating show, for example)
Have you seen it? How do you know it is bad? By 'bad', I mean how do you
know it will be worse than 'Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire' or 'The
Bachelor'?
> that if the
> networks flood the schedule with every reality shwo that comes their
> way just to fill the slots, then they'll oversaturate the market with
> reality shows and more quickly burn out the ones that *have* worked
> (Survivor, TAR, BatG, The Bachelor, for examples).
Hmmm...that might be a good thing. If a 6th month strike all but wipes the
slate clean for reality-TV on primetime, would it really be a problem?
> And in some cases, I wouldn't be surprised if a network were to repeat
> a particular medium-lasting series from the beginning. Say, a
> two-hour block of One Tree Hill starting from season 1 on the CW on
> Monday nights, for example.
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Author: Ed StasiakEd Stasiak Date: Oct 28, 2007 16:38
> Obveeus wrote
>> Rob Jensen wrote
>>
>> Also, some of the possible reality shows waiting in the wings are
>> sooooo bad (the CW's farmer dating show, for example)
>
> Have you seen it? How do you know it is bad?
What more do you need to know beyond "farmer dating show"?
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Author: ObveeusObveeus Date: Oct 28, 2007 17:28
>> Obveeus wrote
>>> Rob Jensen wrote
>>>
>>> Also, some of the possible reality shows waiting in the wings are
>>> sooooo bad (the CW's farmer dating show, for example)
>>
>> Have you seen it? How do you know it is bad?
>
> What more do you need to know beyond "farmer dating show"?
Well, the words 'dating show' are enough to stop me from watching. My point
was more along the lines of 'why would this be less watchable than the other
dating shows'? Most 'farmers' are millionaires anyway. This show simply
combines the standard dating a rich guy show with a show where the woman is
being taken out of her natural element.
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Author: Pete BPete B Date: Oct 28, 2007 17:50
> You also don't have a "reality" series, the ridiculous notion that those
> aren't at least partially scripted notwithstanding.
Show your proof.
> If producers insist
> on keeping those projects non-WGA, then I'm wondering if they might at
> least agree to sign a stipulation to the effect that no one on the shows
> ever were made to do or say anything based on an instruction read off of
> a piece of paper or computer monitor. Methinks not.
So you are saying a few words on a piece of paper is scripts? Wow, it's
easy being a writer.
>
> [
> Because reality shows are supposedly unscripted,
If those shows have a script the writers are so incompetent they are
overpaid already.
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Date: Oct 28, 2007 18:36
On Oct 28, 2:59 pm, Rob Jensen aol.com> wrote:> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:07:03 -0400, "Steven L."
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> earthlink.net> wrote:>>Winning hearts, minds begins with WGA's own
>>By Ray Richmond
>
>>Oct 26, 2007
>>I know there are big complex issues dividing the Writers Guild of
>>America and the Alliance of Motion Picture & Television Producers in
>>advance of Wednesday's contract deadline that might result in a walkout
>>by WGA membership. But before things veer out of control, allow me to
>>reduce this to its simplest essence.
>
>>If you have no writers, you have no film. Or TV series. Or miniseries.
>>You also don't have a "reality" series, the ridiculous notion that those ...
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Author: Anim8rFSKAnim8rFSK Date: Oct 28, 2007 23:13
In article 4ax.com>,
The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:43:49 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> >>In article 4ax.com>,
>> Rob Jensen aol.com> wrote:
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Author: Joseph NebusJoseph Nebus Date: Oct 29, 2007 05:43
"Ed Stasiak" att.net> writes:
>> Obveeus wrote
>>> Rob Jensen wrote
>>>
>>> Also, some of the possible reality shows waiting in the wings are
>>> sooooo bad (the CW's farmer dating show, for example)
>>
>> Have you seen it? How do you know it is bad?
>What more do you need to know beyond "farmer dating show"?
Not to mention, ``The CW''?
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Joseph Nebus
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Author: Michael UrbanMichael Urban Date: Oct 29, 2007 07:09
During an earlier writers' strike, one solution ("Mission: Impossible")
was to revive an older series and reshoot old scripts.
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