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>"Christ's Love" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 23:05:23 -0400, Darrell Stec
>> webpagesorcery.com> wrote:
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>>>Christ's Love wrote:
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>>>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 21:54:41 -0400, Darrell Stec
>>>> webpagesorcery.com> wrote:
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>>>>>Christ's Love wrote:
>>>>>

>>>>>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 19:38:34 +0100, "Steve O" thanks.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Christ's Love" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>> On Thu, 8 May 2008 05:44:04 -0700 (PDT), p0wer_of_me_@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>On May 8, 5:17 am, Christ's Love yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> 1. Only in recent years has science discovered that everything we
>>>>>>>>>> see is composed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that
>>>>>>>>>> the "things which are seen were not made of things which do
>>>>>>>>>> appear."

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Apparently it doesn't say that.
>>>>>>>If you think it does, please quote verse and chapter
>>>>>>>

>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's in Hebrews 11.3. I suggest you pick up your Bible and read it
>>>>>> sometime, Steve.
>>>>>>

>>>>>
>>>>>As Steve has stated, you do not understand what you are reading. That
>>>>>happens more than not with Christians because not only do they have
>>>>>faith
>>>>>in god and faith in the bible and faith that the bible is the word of
>>>>>god,
>>>>>they even have faith that the translators (with an agenda and bias) are
>>>>>translating the words correctly.
>>>>>
>>>>>Might I suggest YOU read your bible? Here is the passage you want us to
>>>>>Steve, and by implication, us to read:
>>>>>
>>>>>pistei nooumen katertisthai tous aiwvas pemati theou eis to me ex
>>>>>phainomenon to blepomenon gegonevai
>>>>>
>>>>>Some of the key words in this passage include:
>>>>>pistei -- which means basically but not literally we trust or have faith
>>>>>in.
>>>>>Note that rules out knowledge. The anonymous author of Hebrews is
>>>>>laying
>>>>>out his proposition as a matter of faith, not knowledge and not science.
>>>>>
>>>>>katertisthai -- means to put in order. In other words, god did not
>>>>>create
>>>>>the universe, he simply ordered what was already there.
>>>>>
>>>>>phainomenon -- which means to shine. This is the meaning as it appears
>>>>>elsewhere in the New Testament. It is opposed to darkness not
>>>>>invisibility.
>>>>>
>>>>>me -- usually used as a negation in answering a rhetorical question.
>>>>>
>>>>>So what he have here the passage means -- By trust we think that the
>>>>>ages
>>>>>(eons/epochs and by implication, eternity or grasping at straws, the
>>>>>world) were put in order by the word of god for what is appearing was
>>>>>made
>>>>>by that not shining.
>>>>>
>>>>>In other words from darkness came light. No invisible, indivisible
>>>>>atoms
>>>>>in this passage, nor any other in scripture.
>>>>>

>>>>
>>>> It's so sad to see you trying to twist and warp the Bible to suit your
>>>> personal vanity, but there's still time to face the truth with an
>>>> honest heart, Darrell.
>>>>
>>>>

>>>
>>>There is no twisting there. I gave you the Greek. Now show me where I
>>>twisted anything. I can read the Greek. Can you?
>>>

>>
>> No, I can't read the Greek, but God shows me the truth in the spirit,

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>Gin? Vodka? Brandy? Whisky?
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>> Darrell, something an atheist can never understand.

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>Nope. Atheists don't understand your delusions/halucinations, nor do we want
>to.

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>> Always remember: Christ loves ewe, and so do I! Each and every one of ewe!

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>Corrected it for you.
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