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Author: p0wer_of_me_
Date: May 8, 2008 05:44

On May 8, 5:17 am, Christ's Love yahoo.com> wrote:
> 1. Only in recent years has science discovered that everything we see
> is composed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that the
> "things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."
>
> 2. Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in
> a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible
> consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day.
>
> 3. At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal
> or a giant (1500 B.C.), the Bible spoke of the earth’s free float in
> space: "He...hangs the earth upon nothing" (Job 26:7).
>
> 4. The prophet Isaiah also tells us that the earth is round: "It is he
> that sits upon the circle of the earth" (Isaiah 40:22). This is not a
> reference to a flat disk, as some skeptic maintain, but to a sphere.
> Secular man discovered this 2,400 years later. At a time when science
> believed that the earth was flat, is was the Scriptures that inspired
> Christopher Columbus to sail around the world (see Proverbs 3:6
> footnote).
>
> 5. God told Job in 1500 B.C.: "Can you send lightnings, that they may
> go, and say to you, Here we are?" (Job 38:35). The Bible here is
> making what appears to be a scientifically ludicrous statement—that
> light can be sent, and then manifest itself in speech. But did you
> know that radio waves travel at the speed of light? This is why you
> can have instantaneous wireless communication with someone on the
> other side of the earth. Science didn’t discover this until 1864 when
> "British scientist James Clerk Maxwell suggested that electricity and
> light waves were two forms of the same thing" (Modern Century
> Illustrated Encyclopedia).
>
> 6. Job 38:19 asks, "Where is the way where light dwells?" Modern man
> has only recently discovered that light (electromagnetic radiation)
> has a "way," traveling at 186,000 miles per second.
>
> 7. Science has discovered that stars emit radio waves, which are
> received on earth as a high pitch. God mentioned this in Job 38:7:
> "When the morning stars sang together..."
>
> 8. "Most cosmologists (scientists who study the structures and
> evolution of the universe) agree that the Genesis account of creation,
> in imagining an initial void, may be uncannily close to the truth"
> (Time, Dec. 1976).
>
> 9. Solomon described a "cycle" of air currents two thousand years
> before scientists "discovered" them. "The wind goes toward the south,
> and turns about unto the north; it whirls about continually, and the
> wind returns again according to his circuits" (Ecclesiastes 1:6).
>
> 10. Science expresses the universe in five terms: time, space, matter,
> power, and motion. Genesis 1:1,2 revealed such truths to the Hebrews
> in 1450 B.C.: "In the beginning [time] God created [power] the heaven
> [space] and the earth [matter] . . . And the Spirit of God moved
> [motion] upon the face of the waters." The first thing God tells man
> is that He controls of all aspects of the universe.
>
> 11. The great biological truth concerning the importance of blood in
> our body’s mechanism has been fully comprehended only in recent years.
> Up until 120 years ago, sick people were "bled," and many died because
> of the practice. If you lose your blood, you lose your life. Yet
> Leviticus 17:11, written 3,000 years ago, declared that blood is the
> source of life: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood."
>
> 12. All things were made by Him (see John 1:3), including dinosaurs.
> Why then did the dinosaur disappear? The answer may be in Job
> 40:15–24. In this passage, God speaks about a great creature called
> "behemoth." Some commentators think this was a hippopotamus. However,
> the hippo’s tail isn’t like a large tree, but a small twig. Following
> are the characteristics of this huge animal: It was the largest of all
> the creatures God made; was plant-eating (herbivorous); had its
> strength in its hips and a tail like a large tree. It had very strong
> bones, lived among the trees, drank massive amounts of water, and was
> not disturbed by a raging river. He appears impervious to attack
> because his nose could pierce through snares, but Scripture says, "He
> that made him can make his sword to approach unto him." In other
> words, God caused this, the largest of all the creatures He had made,
> to become extinct.
>
> 13. Encyclopedia Britannica documents that in 1845, a young doctor in
> Vienna named Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis was horrified at the terrible death
> rate of women who gave birth in hospitals. As many as 30 percent died
> after giving birth. Semmelweis noted that doctors would examine the
> bodies of patients who died, then, without washing their hands, go
> straight to the next ward and examine expectant mothers. This was
> their normal practice, because the presence of microscopic diseases
> was unknown. Semmelweis insisted that doctors wash their hands before
> examinations, and the death rate immediately dropped to 2 percent.
> Look at the specific instructions God gave His people for when they
> encounter disease: "And when he that has an issue is cleansed of his
> issue; then he shall number to himself even days for his cleansing,
> and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall
> be clean" (Leviticus 15:13). Until recent years, doctors washed their
> hands in a bowl of water, leaving invisible germs on their hands.
> However, the Bible says specifically to wash hands under "running
> water."
>
> 14. Luke 17:34–36 says the Second Coming of Jesus Christ will occur
> while some are asleep at night and others are working at daytime
> activities in the field. This is a clear indication of a revolving
> earth, with day and night at the same time.
>
> 15. "During the devastating Black Death of the fourteenth century,
> patients who were sick or dead were kept in the same rooms as the rest
> of the family. People often wondered why the disease was affecting so
> many people at one time. They attributed these epidemics to ‘bad air’
> or ‘evil spirits.’ However, careful attention to the medical commands
> of God as revealed in Leviticus would have saved untold millions of
> lives. Arturo Castiglione wrote about the overwhelming importance of
> this biblical medical law: ‘The laws against leprosyin Leviticus 13
> may be regarded as the first model of sanitary legislation’ (A History
> of Medicine)." Grant R. Jeffery, The Signature of God With all these
> truths revealed in Scripture,how could a thinking person deny that the
> Bible is supernatural in origin? There is no other book in any of the
> world’s religions (Vedas, Bhagavad-Gita, Koran, Book of Mormon, etc.)
> that contains scientific truth. In fact, they contain statements that
> are clearly unscientific. Hank Hanegraaff said, "Faith in Christ is
> not some blind leap into a dark chasm, but a faith based on
> established evidence." (11:3 continued)
>
> Always remember: Christ loves you, and so do I! Each and every one of you!

...How clever, let me see what I can say, though I'm by no means
Budikka. Also, please don't steal things from the way of the master
series, and if you do, please make it as fun to play with as the
banana argument;

1.-a) Atoms are not invisible, and if a virus had a way to see, they
would probably appear to be like vibrating dust particles that make up
the virus itself, as well as it's entire microscopic world.
b) The bible also says the world is flat, this is cherry picking, as
is my example.
2.-Circumcision date is irrelevant today, and if it really made a
serious impact on the health of the child they could always not
circumcise him
3-space isn't nothing, and the bible (Ps. 93:1, Ps. 19:1-6, Joshua
10:12-14) says that the sun goes around us, not contradictory but
faulted.
4-.........................this is why you shouldn't copy your
articles from way of the master, this is truly sad. A circle is not a
sphere, nor ball, nor oblate spheroid, nor egg shaped thing, nor
anything with a 3rd dimension, a circle is simply a circle. As for
Columbus, he was a navigator, and his interest was first piqued when
he noticed that ships appear on the horizon mast first, then the ship
slowly rises up, keying up Columbus as a super religious man is a bit
inaccurate, the conquistadors that followed in his footsteps were more
fit for that role.
5-radio waves do travel at the precise speed of light... in a vaccum
that does not contain a single dust particle. If god is depriving the
earth of oxygen, atmosphere, and blocking out all forms of energy
including sunlight on the earth, then it's possible.
6- Can you go into more detail on this, because it seems to be a
contortion of a simple phrase?
7-once again, simply contorting a metaphor. Though I'd like to accept
this article as true, because it would add an argument for many
science fiction novels with heavy uses of metaphors that were written
before we knew this, *goes to pray to the Martians of war of the
worlds*
8-big bang theory, anyone?
9-Good for Solomon. His findings have nothing to do with god.
10-oblique reference where it seems to be taken out of context.
11-blood is not the source of life, oxygen is. Blood's purpose is to
transport oxygen all over the body to keep our body parts from rotting
off and dieing, but blood isn't whats allowing the cells to live, it's
oxygen.
12-Even if true, this would only describe one very fucked up dinosaur.
The fact that it was a herbivore makes it's strong bones and heavy
size a bad thing, as was the plight of the paleiosaur, which almost
made up for that fact due to their huge necks. There are many kinds of
dinosaurs who are carnivores, would easily be swept away by rivers,
drank little, and had quick and flexible yet weak bones.
13-Damn, too bad god didn't mention that the hotter the water the
better, or that when soap was invented it should be used.
14- Not necessarily, What I take from this is that god was warning the
people of the future that the bloody corporate scum would create
something called "3rd shift", who get paid a normal amount, but work
from dusk 'til dawn.
15-no verse, no opinion.

I love you too, though that christ feller tends to act like an asshat
sometimes.
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