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Author: MyalMyal Date: May 1, 2008 10:20
I just said goodbye to a bunch of extra kids who were here for a while
as "emergency care"
having our population in the house doubled for a while ate a serious
hole in our budget as well as our food stocks , itll be fixed soon
enough tho , but it got me wondering , who actually allows for extras to
stay ?
In Africa , there are entire villages of children , AIDS orphans , with
maybe only a couple adults to look after them if they are lucky .
It could happen here ... who allows room in their home / survial preps
for extra people as kids / friends / folk who just need a hand up for a
while ?
What kind of plans do you have ?
Just curious , since I seen a few "if any thinks Im gunna help is gunna
get a shock" kinda posts at times
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Author: "The Rifleman""The Rifleman" Date: May 1, 2008 13:28
Good point, the only extras I admit to planning for would be the Brother in
law and his wife, mainly extra grub I stock for them because they have most
of the other consumables such as camping/ hiking/ survival kit, but only
last night I realised that to play safe I could do with doubling the amount
of diesel I cache to cover his transport needs.
BTW on Sky news today they are forcasting a
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Author: MyalMyal Date: May 1, 2008 14:31
"The Rifleman" wrote:
> Good point, the only extras I admit to planning for would be the Brother in
> law and his wife, mainly extra grub I stock for them because they have most
> of the other consumables such as camping/ hiking/ survival kit, but only
> last night I realised that to play safe I could do with doubling the amount
> of diesel I cache to cover his transport needs.
> BTW on Sky news today they are forcasting a £1.50 a litre by 2009, thats
> £6.81 a gallon or $14 an imperial gallon, or $11.50 a US gallon. Damn glad
> I've adapting the BOv to use veggy oil as well asdiesel.
>
>
on ebay there is some ood stuff for swapping to veg oil , 6 port fuel
solinoids , glowplug heaters , hot pads for tanks , filters etc ... all
there and the best stuff comes from the UK anyway cos they got to deal
with cold and cold is the biggest issue ..
I filled the bus with fuel tonight , $1.70 a litre bit of a sting after
brewing my own for a while :) reality bites ..
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Author: John HusvarJohn Husvar Date: May 1, 2008 15:03
In article news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
Myal hotmail.com> wrote:
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> just curious as to what people are thinking about how its gunna go after
> TSHTF ? will seeing it up close and personal change their behaviours ?
>
> will they be able to walk past starving kids and not help them , or will
> they feel for them and give them something ?
>
> what is the cut off point too ,when do you know when you are doing
> enough / too much ? would you go short yourself so someone else could
> actually live a bit longer ?
>
> kinda wondering if anyone is going to answer too :) ,
Man, now that's getting down to the rubber meeting the road!
People tend to cooperate in natural disasters, etc. where everybody is
in the same leaky boat.
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Author: Non SequiterNon Sequiter Date: May 1, 2008 15:04
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> will they be able to walk past starving kids and not help them , or
> will they feel for them and give them something ?
>
> what is the cut off point too ,when do you know when you are doing
> enough / too much ? would you go short yourself so someone else could
> actually live a bit longer ?
It is *my* labor and *my* preparations for *me* and *my* family that will
allow *us* to survive hard times.
Others will have to fend for themselves pure and simple. Will I short
myself or my family so that a stranger can live? No way. At least not for
the difficult first stages of transition in whatever form it takes. Later
when the dust settles and things begin to normalize there will be much need
for charity work.
In the first difficult days hard and fast decisions will have to be made.
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Author: CanopyCoCanopyCo Date: May 1, 2008 16:16
On May 1, 7:31 am, Myal hotmail.com> wrote:>
> on ebay there is some ood stuff for swapping to veg oil , 6 port fuel
> solinoids , glowplug heaters , hot pads for tanks , filters etc ... all
> there and the best stuff comes from the UK anyway cos they got to deal
> with cold and cold is the biggest issue ..
>
> I filled the bus with fuel tonight , $1.70 a litre bit of a sting after
> brewing my own for a while :) reality bites ..
$3.50 a US gallon here in Oklahoma.
>
> the biggest issue I had was transport , carting the number of people
> around I had , it would have been easy enough if we didnt have to worry
> about seating laws and max number of passangers , but we had a police
> blitz at the same time so caution was the go ..
Was this blitz also the reason for the increase in your population?
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Author: MyalMyal Date: May 1, 2008 16:33
John Husvar wrote:
> In article news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> Myal hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> just curious as to what people are thinking about how its gunna go after
>> TSHTF ? will seeing it up close and personal change their behaviours ?
>>
>> will they be able to walk past starving kids and not help them , or will
>> they feel for them and give them something ?
>>
>> what is the cut off point too ,when do you know when you are doing
>> enough / too much ? would you go short yourself so someone else could
>> actually live a bit longer ?
>>
>> kinda wondering if anyone is going to answer too :) ,
>
> Man, now that's getting down to the rubber meeting the road!
>
> People tend to cooperate in natural disasters, etc. where everybody is
> in the same leaky boat. ...
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Author: MyalMyal Date: May 1, 2008 17:57
CanopyCo wrote:
> On May 1, 7:31 am, Myal hotmail.com> wrote:>> on ebay there is some ood stuff for swapping to veg oil , 6 port fuel
>> solinoids , glowplug heaters , hot pads for tanks , filters etc ... all
>> there and the best stuff comes from the UK anyway cos they got to deal
>> with cold and cold is the biggest issue ..
>>
>> I filled the bus with fuel tonight , $1.70 a litre bit of a sting after
>> brewing my own for a while :) reality bites ..
>
> $3.50 a US gallon here in Oklahoma.
>
>> the biggest issue I had was transport , carting the number of people
>> around I had , it would have been easy enough if we didnt have to worry
>> about seating laws and max number of passangers , but we had a police
>> blitz at the same time so caution was the go ..
>
> Was this blitz...
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Author: John HusvarJohn Husvar Date: May 1, 2008 17:59
> My personal findings are that kids will more often than not , work for
> their keep , more so if they are given a sense of responsibility and
> treated as human / valued member of the family / group
True enough most of the time and they are generally teachable once out
from under outside influences, if any.
>
> I also found that people who I gave a hand up to , tend to hang around
> and be really loyal friends at times annoyingly loyal :)
Ummmmmm, yes. :)
>
> This is not a hard and fast rule tho by any means , but could be worth
> thinking about , in post SHTF situation it would have a bearing on any
> decisions I made , would whoever I helped be going to contribute to the
> good of the tribe / group ?
Agreed.
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Author: DanDan Date: May 1, 2008 18:10
"The Rifleman" wrote:
> Good point, the only extras I admit to planning for would be the Brother in
> law and his wife, mainly extra grub I stock for them because they have most
> of the other consumables such as camping/ hiking/ survival kit, but only
> last night I realised that to play safe I could do with doubling the amount
> of diesel I cache to cover his transport needs.
> BTW on Sky news today they are forcasting a £1.50 a litre by 2009, thats
> £6.81 a gallon or $14 an imperial gallon, or $11.50 a US gallon. Damn glad
> I've adapting the BOv to use veggy oil as well asdiesel.
>
>
>
> "Myal" hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:G3fSj.6637$ko5.5323@news-server.bigpond.net.au...>> I just said goodbye to a bunch of extra kids who were here for a while as
>> "emergency care"
>>
>> having our population in the house doubled for a while ate a serious hole
>> in our budget as well as our food stocks , itll be fixed soon enough tho ,
>> but it got me wondering , who actually allows for extras to stay ? ...
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