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Re: Learning to live with it

Author: astri
Date: Sep 2, 2007 13:55

On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Baba Yaga wrote:

>>> 'Though at the moment I'll go for almost anything which isn't echoing
>>> dissension inside my own flaming skull. (Or echoing declensions.)

>>
>> had to look that one up, never saw it before. learned
>> something new today.
>>
>> hoping echoes are more amenable to calmness now.

>
> Praise be, they are. For the while. Thank you.

this is good. very good. accept for the while as enough for the while.

>>> I can't conceive how. How often does anyoe really conquer anything
>>> alone? Let alone remaking a person.

>>
>> hmm, that's a good point. maybe little things. remaking a
>> person, i don't think so. such a monumental task.

>
> Truly. The moving of mountains pales beside.

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Re: Learning to live with it

Author: the valerians
Date: Sep 2, 2007 14:27

On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:55:44 -1000, astri example.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Baba Yaga wrote:

>>>

>>>> 'Though at the moment I'll go for almost anything which isn't echoing
>>>> dissension inside my own flaming skull. (Or echoing declensions.)

>>>
>>> had...

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Re: Learning to live with it

Author: astri
Date: Sep 2, 2007 17:40

On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Baba Yaga wrote:

> astri example.com> wrote, in alt.support.dissociation:

>> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Baba Yaga wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> 'Though at the moment I'll go for almost anything which isn't echoing
>>>>> dissension inside my own flaming skull. (Or echoing declensions.)

>>>>
>>>> had to look that one up, never saw it before. learned
>>>> something new today.
>>>>
>>>> hoping echoes are more amenable to calmness now.

>>>
>>> Praise be, they are. For the while. Thank you.

>>
>> this is good. very good. accept for the while as enough for the while.

>
> Yes. 8-)

> Can do, when they allow me separation.

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Re: Learning to live with it

Author: astri
Date: Sep 2, 2007 17:52

On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, the valerians wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:55:44 -1000, astri example.com> wrote:
>

>> we're trying to plant the idea of lucid dreaming with sir lala. remind
>> him whenever he has bad dream that he can learn to know he is dreaming
>> and change his dreams, but that it takes practice to do so. he likes
>> that idea.

>
> we used to be very good at that. you're right, though, it takes
> practice to develop and maintain. we fell out of practice. but it's
> awesome.

wow. cool. we've never really been able to do it.

-- astri

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Re: Learning to live with it

Author: astri
Date: Sep 2, 2007 20:52

On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Baba Yaga wrote:

> astri example.com> wrote, in alt.support.dissociation:

>> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Baba Yaga wrote:
>>

>>> Can do, when they allow me separation.

>>
>> learn to let everyone exist and communicate and also have some degree of
>> separation, not necessarily total separation (unless that is necessary)?

>
> Not asking much, are you? 8-p

never

> That's what I thunk we'd been doing most of the time (....) since last
> summer. Since big freak then. It appears I was in error.

or you were doing it, but sometimes it gets harder?

>> yes. teaching now gives him power he can keep.

>
> *Yes. Exactly. Power is good.

when it's used well

-- astri

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Re: Learning to live with it

Author: astri
Date: Sep 2, 2007 20:54

On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Baba Yaga wrote:

> astri example.com> wrote, in alt.support.dissociation:

>> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, the valerians wrote:

>>> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:55:44 -1000, astri example.com> wrote:
>>>

>>>> we're trying to plant the idea of lucid dreaming with sir lala. remind
>>>> him whenever he has bad dream that he can learn to know he is dreaming
>>>> and change his dreams, but that it takes practice to do so. he likes
>>>> that idea.

>>>
>>> we used to be very good at that. you're right, though, it takes
>>> practice to develop and maintain. we fell out of practice. but it's
>>> awesome.

>>
>> wow. cool. we've never really been able to do it.

>
> I think that's a comfort. In that funny upside down way...

heh

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Re: Learning to live with it

Author: the valerians
Date: Sep 3, 2007 03:56

On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:52:27 -1000, astri example.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, the valerians wrote:

>> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:55:44 -1000, astri example.com> wrote:
>>

>>> we're trying to plant the idea of lucid dreaming with sir lala. remind
>>> him whenever he has bad dream that he can learn to know he is dreaming
>>> and change his dreams, but that it takes practice to do so. he likes
>>> that idea.

>>
>> we used to be very good at that. you're right, though, it takes
>> practice to develop and maintain. we fell out of practice. but it's
>> awesome.

>
>wow. cool. we've never really been able to do it.

we found that what is on our mind as we drift off to sleep goes into
our dreams. so as we slip into sleep we think "i am asleep and in a
dream. i am aware of the circumstances of my dream. i control what
happens and how i respond, yet i remain soundly asleep." something
like that.

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Re: Learning to live with it

Author: the valerians
Date: Sep 3, 2007 03:56

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 02:04:44 +0100, Baba Yaga
phonecoop.coop> wrote:

>astri example.com> wrote, in alt.support.dissociation:
>

>>On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, the valerians wrote:

>>> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:55:44 -1000, astri example.com> wrote:
>>>

>>>
>>> we used to be very good at that. you're right, though, it takes
>>> practice to develop and maintain. we fell out of practice. but it's
>>> awesome.

>>
>>wow. cool. we've never really been able to do it.

>
>I think that's a comfort. In that funny upside down way...

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