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Author: OldGoatOldGoat Date: May 12, 2008 14:50
What do you think?
Is it wrong for a doctor to withhold such information from a patient? If
they're going to die, should they be told? If they aren't going to die, but
it's information that could affect the way they'll...
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Author: JubaJuba Date: May 12, 2008 16:43
OldGoat ERdocsuckYahoo.com> wrote in message:
lY2Wj.1963$za1.350@trndny07,
> What do you think?
>
> Is it wrong for a doctor to withhold such information from a patient?
> If they're going to die, should they be told? If they aren't going to
> die, but it's information that could...
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Author: DebsDebs Date: May 12, 2008 21:58
I think your sister should be told the truth. It's just playing with her
to do what they are doing. It's mean. Is she just an experiment to them?
Sorry I didn't answer the question asked but the deal with your sister
got me really really pissed off!!
Debs
OldGoat wrote:
> What do you think?
>
> Is it wrong for a doctor to withhold such information from a patient? If
> they're going to die, should they be told? If they aren't going to die, but
> it's information that...
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Author: trishatrisha Date: May 13, 2008 00:18
This is an interesting question.
It is my belief that the patient always has the right to know. Not
only that, but we have the responsibility to tell them.
That said, it doesn't always happen this way. Family members say they
don't want the person to know. They say Grandma can't handle it.
They think Uncle Joe isn't stable enough to take the news.
What they don't know is that after they leave at night, Grandma is
telling the nurses she knows she's dying from cancer and it really
bothers her that everyone is pussyfooting about, trying to keep it
secret from her.
They aren't aware that Uncle Joe is already planning to do the things
he wanted to do when he was younger, while he still has his strength,
and that he has decided NOT to "do everything possible to stay
alive." He's chosen not to do chemo and radiation because his best
friend died of the same kind of cancer 10 years ago and he watched him
turn from a human, full of personality and life, into a pitiful shell,
unable to eat or even pee by himself.
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Author: DebsDebs Date: May 13, 2008 00:24
OG, to answer your question, I believe that if the patient is menatlly
able to deal with the info, then yes they DEFINITELY should be told. By
able to deal with the info I mean, can they comprehend? can they deal
without trying to kill themselves, etc. I think that when many people
withold info from the patient, they are doing it just to protect
themselves or just for selfish reasons. That's my take on the question.
Debs
OldGoat wrote:
> What do you think?
>
> Is it wrong for a doctor to withhold such information from a patient? If
> they're going to die, should they be told? If they aren't going to die, but
> it's information that...
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Date: May 13, 2008 00:27
"OldGoat" ERdocsuckYahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lY2Wj.1963$za1.350@trndny07...> What do you think?
>
> Is it wrong for a doctor to withhold such information from a patient? If
> they're going to die, should they be told? If they aren't going to die,
> but it's information that could affect the way they'll live the rest of
> their lives, should they be told? Lets say it's going to mean a nursing
> home for the rest of their lives, never going home again. The doctor tells
> the family but not the patient. Does the patient have the right to know?
> I know you can throw a lot of variable in to a question like this. My 96
> year old grandfather had prostate cancer and it was pretty clear that time
> was going to get him before the cancer would. I think the only ones who
> knew were me and Mom, at 96 you got enough to worry about.
> On the flip side my 50 something sister is being told if she jumps through
> hoops for the shrink, she'll be going back home. We were told the complete
> opposite without her in the room. Should she be told, or wonder the next
> 10 years why she's not going to her home? (her's is a psych issue, so it's
> complex. She may put a plastic bag over her head and tie the knot this
> time.). ...
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Author: LoriB.o.B.LoriB.o.B. Date: May 13, 2008 12:26
Dearest (((((((((OG)))))))))))),
I am in complete agreement w/everyone here especially of course Trish
who says it so well.
It IS WRONG to W/HOLD INFO about dying & yes, they generally seem to
know anyhow. I worked in a nursing home as a music therapy aide for a
long time & have seen it happen many times. It would drive me nuts
when administration would say "don't tell so & so they have/or they
are dying"...unless they had Dementia I would disagree not to tell
them as they'd ask me & what could I say? I always managed to say "go
w/your own feelings & TALK to your family & healthcare provider about
this".
As far as your sister goes (& god og, my heart just breaks for you on
this issue), People are going to do whatever they choose to do
regardless of what anyone else says or does...you can NEVER BLAME
YOU...please. I suppose you've (or somebody) sat down & REALLY TALKED
& LISTENED TO HER FEELINGS OF WHY SHE WANTS TO DIE, but that's all I
can suggest ...there's a loss of something w/in her that she just
needs to come to terms with.
My soul cries for you in your pain (((Og))).
Love, ...
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Author: JubaJuba Date: May 13, 2008 13:32
> Dearest (((((((((OG)))))))))))),
> I am in complete agreement w/everyone here especially of course Trish
> who says it so well.
> It IS WRONG to W/HOLD INFO about dying & yes, they generally seem to...
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Author: JubaJuba Date: May 13, 2008 13:38
Juba XmasterjubaX.com> wrote in message:
1s9jcj.b4o.19.1@news.alt.net,> Yes, we all want to know if we're going to die soon--but only if we
> can handle it. Sometimes family members have to decide for us whether
> or not we can handle it. Needless to say, it's a judgment call and
> subject to second-guessing, but if we can't trust our family to make
> those kinds of decisions in our best interests then we're screwed
> anyway.
I'm more concerned about my family going bankrupt trying to keep me
alive in a hopeless or near-hopeless situation, despite the fact that
I've told them repeatedly not to do that.
My mom on the other hand was adament that I should not pull the plug on
her no matter what happens. That's because of her religious beliefs and
I have to respect her wishes.
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Author: OldGoatOldGoat Date: May 13, 2008 18:12
Dear MJ,
You had best get a DNR legally done, spelling out the exact circumstances of
what you want. As long as the bills get paid, they will keep you a plugged
in. It wasn't like that 20 years ago, but if there's...
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