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Re: Increase the effectiveness of your pain meds?         


Author: Debs
Date: May 6, 2008 04:28

Ah! I either mis-read or mis-interpreted. When you said we should be
aware I thought in a negative way, like stay away from it and I was
confused. Thanks Mike!! I will go to the drug store today and see what I
can find. It's in cough syrup, right?

Debs

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Author: No_Money
Date: May 6, 2008 10:25

On May 6, 5:16 am, Debs yahoo.com> wrote:
> Wasn't that pseudophed(sp?) and meth?
> I just don't get the link to neuropathy... but then again when was the
> last time I slept???
>
> Debs
>
> LoriB.o.B. wrote:
>> I think it (dextromethorphan) enhances or seems to make stronger
>> opiods/effects. I do know that they quit selling it in many
>> pharmacies & it's not generally available at pharmacies unless asked
>> for & you have to sign for it & are limited as to how many bottles of
>> cough syrup containing it u can get at one time. Because some kids
>> somewhere died from drinking several bottles of it in one sitting
>> (their last). sigh.
>> I may be thinking of a diff. ingred. but I am pretty sure it's dex.
>> takin' another deep breath,
>> LoriBoB
>> **************
> ...
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Re: Increase the effectiveness of your pain meds?         


Author: Michael B
Date: May 6, 2008 21:28

Remember that I'm not advocating, or even suggesting, but
rather noting that you should make yourself aware of it.
And Robitussin DM has 10 mg dextro, 100 mg guaifenisin.
But if you're going to pursue this, here are a couple of sites in
my collection. Did I say a couple? Silly me. There are plenty
of others. And before a person starts getting serious, they
should know how it relates to the Cytochrome P450 System.

http://opioids.com/opiates/index.html

http://www.lycaeum.org/drugs.old/synthetics/dxm/faq/general_info.html

http://www.wsnia.org/articles/Summer2003/OTC-drug_abuse.htm

MorphiDex (MS:DM) double-blind,
multiple-dose studies in chronic pain patients
by
Katz NP.
Brigham & Women's Hospital,
Pain and Management Center, Boston, MA 02115, USA.
J Pain Symptom Manage 2000 Jan;19 (1 Suppl): S37-41

ABSTRACT
Preclinical and double-blind single-dose placebo-controlled studies
demonstrated that MorphiDex (MS:DM), a 1:1 ratio of morphine
sulfate (MS) to dextromethorphan hydrobromide (DM), provides
significantly...
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Author: No_Money
Date: May 7, 2008 18:48

On May 7, 12:28 am, Michael B bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Remember that I'm not advocating, or even suggesting, but
> rather noting that you should make yourself aware of it.
> And Robitussin DM has 10 mg dextro, 100 mg guaifenisin.
> But if you're going to pursue this, here are a couple of sites in
> my collection. Did I say a couple? Silly me. There are plenty
> of others. And before a person starts getting serious, they
> should know how it relates to the Cytochrome P450 System.
>
> http://opioids.com/opiates/index.html
>
> http://www.lycaeum.org/drugs.old/synthetics/dxm/faq/general_info.html
>
> http://www.wsnia.org/articles/Summer2003/OTC-drug_abuse.htm
>
> MorphiDex (MS:DM) double-blind,
> multiple-dose studies in chronic pain patients
> by
> Katz NP.
> Brigham & Women's Hospital, ...
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Author: Debs
Date: May 7, 2008 19:43

Thanks for the info!!

Debs

No_Money wrote:
> On May 7, 12:28 am, Michael B bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>Remember that I'm not advocating, or even suggesting, but
>>rather noting that you should make yourself aware of it.
>>And Robitussin...
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Re: Increase the effectiveness of your pain meds?         


Author: Michael B
Date: May 7, 2008 20:02

Yes, http://opioids.com/opiates/index.html noted the use of
antacids a couple of times.

On May 7, 9:48 pm, No_Money hush.com> wrote:
>
> I find Antacids work too. Just a couple Rolaids taken with my pain
> pills and I swear the narcotic impact is stronger. For those on a
> budject just mix a couple table spoons of Baking Soda and it too is
> and Antacid. It works by changing the stomach into an ideal PH for
> breaking down pills. And I find the results are a little more from my
> morphine. It really seems to give the pain pills a bit of a boost.
>
> No Money
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Author: No_Money
Date: May 7, 2008 21:51

On May 7, 11:02 pm, Michael B bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Yes, http://opioids.com/opiates/index.htmlnoted the use of
> antacids a couple of times.
>
> On May 7, 9:48 pm, No_Money hush.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> I find Antacids work too. Just a couple Rolaids taken with my pain
>> pills and I swear the narcotic impact is stronger. For those on a
>> budject just mix a couple table spoons of Baking Soda and it too is
>> and Antacid. It works by changing the stomach into an ideal PH for
>> breaking down pills. And I find the results are a little more from my
>> morphine. It really seems to give the pain pills a bit of a boost.
>
>> No Money
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Author: Legend
Date: May 8, 2008 00:16

On May 6, 5:16 am, Debs yahoo.com> wrote:
> Wasn't that pseudophed(sp?) and meth?
> I just don't get the link to neuropathy... but then again when was the
> last time I slept???
>
> Debs
>
> LoriB.o.B. wrote:
>> I think it (dextromethorphan) enhances or seems to make stronger
>> opiods/effects. I do know that they quit selling it in many
>> pharmacies & it's not generally available at pharmacies unless asked
>> for & you have to sign for it & are limited as to how many bottles of
>> cough syrup containing it u can get at one time. Because some kids
>> somewhere died from drinking several bottles of it in one sitting
>> (their last). sigh.
>> I may be thinking of a diff. ingred. but I am pretty sure it's dex.
>> takin' another deep breath,
>> LoriBoB
>> **************
> ...
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Author: Debs
Date: May 8, 2008 02:22

Did you take just one dose of the dex or a few the one time that you
tried it?

Debs

I M Hurting wrote:
>>So, they saved us from codeine-but with what? And, how did it take so
>>long for the hallucinogenic properties of dextromethorpan to be
>>discovered?
>
>
> I tried dextromethorphan some time ago when...
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Re: Increase the effectiveness of your pain meds?         


Author: Michael B
Date: May 8, 2008 03:36

You mean like http://www.cja-jca.org/cgi/content/full/51/9/905
Mind you, I'm not trying to make a pitch for dextro, just reminding
that
Old Goat's mention of using it was consistent with a considerable
amount of research documentation that's already out there.

Shucks, when this thread is over, I probably won't get around to
mentioning dextromethorphan again, or even NMDA receptor stuff.
Not like Ironjustice with his locking in on something.

On May 8, 12:51 am, No_Money hush.com> wrote:
> On May 7, 11:02 pm, Michael B bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, http://opioids.com/opiates/index.html noted the use of
>> antacids a couple of times.
>
> So, I'm most eager to read up on new information as to how to make the
> most of my extended released morphine pills.
>
> No Money.
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