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Group: alt.support.chronicpain · Group Profile
Author: OldGoat
Date: May 8, 2008 11:49

Dear Blinded, (I try and make it a point not to use real names, it usually
only leads to trouble, so please don't feel I am being rude or anything.)

Sorry you feel that way and perhaps it was out of line to use that phrase.
But if there has not been a terrorist attack on the US since 9/11, when was
the last time you filled your gas tank? This was a war to turn a $1.50
gallon of gas in to a $4 dollar gallon of gas. Blame refining due to
Katrina, lack of output from the war zone, explosions in Texas City, record
profits by oil companies, whoever you want. It's all crap and gas in Iraq is
still 35 cents a gallon. in Myanmar, where they had the cyclone that's
killed 20,000 so far and they have one of the lowest standards of living in
the world it's $1.35 a gallon. I'm don't recall what it is in Communist
China, but I know it wasn't close to $4. It's sold by the producing
countries to who they want at how much they want and if record profits just
happen to come along for the ride for big oil, don't expect any complaints.
There's more ways to attack a country than flying aircraft in to buildings.
That was only going to work once. They found a better weapon, one where
those under attack don't even notice it, because too many pockets are being
filled. If selective damage to certain countries economies is not an attack,
beats me what is.
Diesel fuel is a perfect example of an oil weapon. It used to be a by
product that was discarded during refining. People can fight back by less
soccer mom trips and consolidate and carpool when regular gasoline is up
over $3 a gallon and cut back demand, and diesel has always been cheaper
than refined gas. But when the price of diesel jumps far past refined
regular gas, which requires more refining to run our cars, it's an attack by
way of oil. The groceries come your way via diesel, every consumer product
is moved by diesel. Now it's a buck higher than car gas a gallon and
climbing. And they used to toss it out.
Don't kid yourself, this is an oil war. More than IED's, mortars or RPG's,
it's the enemies weapon of choice and we are under attack daily. And they're
using it damn well. Poor leadership, sure, plenty of that. From Texas, home
of Texas tea. But were all looking from the dirty bomb or a smuggled nuke,
while normal people wonder if they can afford to go to work. Real damage to
an enemy is so subtle they don't know they're under attack until it's a
crisis. Don't let the robes throw you, there's Armani and Rolexes under
those robes, and it's been taken out of your pocket. By oil. --og

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people with chronic pain.
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"Blinded" wrote in message
news:4822e5d1$0$33217$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> OG,
> your message would have been so much more effective if you did not add the
> word "oil" to the word "war"
> Although I did send the letters to my senators, I took offense to the
> adjective you used,
> All I know for sure, is that while we are fighting them in the gulf region
> there has not been one successful attack on the homeland.
> The soldiers I have spoke with have never used that term oil war while I
> spoke with them
>
> Mark
>
> "OldGoat" ERdocsuckYahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:WetUj.602$Hh.154@trndny09...
>> Dear Kathy,
>>
>> I couldn't agree more. Pain is pain whatever it is from and whoever it
>> happens to. But it's a matter of exposure of the problem. They think that
>> 75 million in chronic pain out of a roughly 300 million population is a
>> lot. Add in the disabled and injured vets getting insufficient pain
>> treatment from this oil war, and the aging baby boomers who are beginning
>> their daily ache and pain patterns, getting cancer and requiring pain
>> care, and it won't be long before half the country has legitimate needs
>> for access to pain control. The vets will be out front, as in all things,
>> and treated the worst, as in all things. Once the precedent is set that
>> vets deserve help, then it easily becomes a case of why not everyone.
>> Remember too, many doctors earn their practices through military service.
>> If the government says it's right to treat pain with pain control, that
>> it's an important part of putting these people who sacrificed so much,
>> completely back together again, and restoring the lives they put in harms
>> way, it can only spread the idea that certain medications are not just
>> for cancer pain or shrapnel wounds, that pain control is the
>> responsibility of doctors to treat as aggressively as they must, for
>> everyone. It's not part of a GI bill, it's a civil right we are all
>> entitled to. Soldiers in pain are suffering from pain, it's not PSTD,
>> it's not depression. It's just pain and it can be helped.
>>
>> If it can revive their lives it can revive ours--og
>>
>> BTW there is also a chronic pain patients bill of rights I forget the HR
>> but it's also from 2007, that sits moldering on a shelf somewhere. They
>> should be the same bill, but any step forward in this environment, is a
>> big step forward.
>>
>> --
>> Be Sure to Check Out the PAYNE HERTZ blog, for people with chronic pain,
>> by people with chronic pain.
>> join in at: http://paynehertz.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> "kjoh" nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:e1066c40bbc4949ff53658652ef089aa@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com...
>>> Hello Mr OldGoat. I am not a frequent poster, but I have been a
>>> regualar
>>> reader for a couple years now. I have to say that nine times out of ten
>>> your thoughts are right on.
>>>
>>> This time though, I must speak up. I often find myself concluding that
>>> veterans deserve extra care and special treatment from our government.
>>> But
>>> not in the case of pain treatment. We all deserve equal consideration
>>> when
>>> it comes to chronic pain.
>>>
>>> Kathy in Montana
>>>
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>>
>>
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